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Re: What More Can I Give? (94,284) (94,301) by Anonymous from
In Andrew's defence I don't think he was trying to cause upset, he clearly knows the murder of George Floyd is a crime and a travesty. Everyone doesn't know the ins and out of things, and sometimes we have to share information to highlight a different perspective. I'm not about dragging someone's down for their views, challenging and giving insight is more conservative. I was conscious about sharing my original post in fear of causing upset and looking stupid. Please don't make this about bashing each other, especially over such a sensitive subject. Let's make this about learning from one another, for people to share respectfully.
(Thursday 4 June 2020; 10:26)
Re: What More Can I Give? (94,291) (94,300) by Manuel from Germany
Great post Jade. Exactly my sentiments.
(Thursday 4 June 2020; 07:51)
Re: What More Can I Give? (94,284) (94,299) by Manuel from Germany
And here we go again with the moral blabla by a privileged, white, English man. Must be great to sit up in your ivory tower, having seen through "those people and communities", having exposed their "true colors" and their "lawless behavior" and not trying to understand why this might be the last resort some people have.

Here's an excerpt from an article.

As part of the coverage of the protests, news stations aired videos and images of protestors vandalizing storefronts. In Minneapolis, the Target on Lake Street - the location closest to where George Floyd was killed - was battered. In Los Angeles, the high-end shops of Rodeo Drive saw broken windows. In New York City, fireworks went off near Chanel and other designer boutiques. Upon seeing those images, the conversation shifted for many Americans. They turned away from what the protestors were fighting for and toward questions about what the future would hold for glossy corporate storefronts, high-end shopping centers, and the concept of retail therapy - they valued property over human lives.

Property damage during protests, though, isn't done without reason, and the destruction of these businesses comes from a place of pain and mourning and, yes, anger. This is part of the nature of protests, including the 1991 Rodney King riots in Los Angeles, and the Stonewall Inn riots in 1969, which famously started after a brick was thrown through a window. When a business is destroyed during a protest, it tears down the wall between "us vs. them", showing how property belonging to "them" - wealthier, usually white people - is just an illusion that can easily be shattered. Or as MLK jr would say: A riot is the language of the unheard.

So if you don't understand this, Andrew, inform yourself and don't just again spurt out your opinions that can be very hurtful and inappropriate and blame those who have no other means of expressing their rage, while you will never know what a black person goes through. Of course some people take advantage of this and it is out of the question that this is bad. But sadly a lot of the conversation is now turning into "oh no, they're destroying our favorite shops", so please don't add to that discourse. And if you have nothing constructive to say, please, for once, shut up.

And remember that it was rioting and looting during the Stonewall riots by black transwomen that is enabling you to live your happy little gay London life. So take several seats.
(Thursday 4 June 2020; 07:49)
Re: What More Can I Give? (94,284) (94,298) by Steven Berning from USA
Wait, does Andrew work for Showbiz 411 and Drew Brees?
(Thursday 4 June 2020; 07:32)
Re: What More Can I Give? (94,284) (94,297) by Edouard from France
There is something seriously wrong with you man.
(Thursday 4 June 2020; 04:22)
Blood Orange / Insecure (94,296) by RibbonB from USA
Last Sunday's episode of Insecure closed with a cool retro sounding Blood Orange song, Out of Her League, I think it's titled. Such a nice little bop. I so want to hear a Mariah song featured on that show.
(Thursday 4 June 2020; 04:04)
Re: Ribbon and Licia (94,293) (94,295) by RibbonB from USA
Too far Bill.
(Thursday 4 June 2020; 04:00)
Re: Ribbon and Licia (94,290) (94,294) by RibbonB from USA
Lots of delulu's edit Wikipedia though tbf. I bet Mimi skips over all of it in her much ballyhooed forthcoming memoirs.
(Thursday 4 June 2020; 03:55)
Re: Ribbon and Licia (94,290) (94,293) by Bill from the UK
Let's not forget Mariah's one hand now has twenty five fingers on it.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 22:01)
Re: Ribbon and Licia (94,290) (94,292) by Licia from USA
Lmao *slides under my desk*.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 21:35)
Re: What More Can I Give? (94,284) (94,291) by Anonymous from
Disclaimer- I'm not the most articulate on here nor do I consider myself to be political. I speak from the heart.

I hear you Andy, it's a disgrace that riots resort to looting, however targeting black people and killing them has to stop. Theirs rioting and then theirs looting. To me, what's worse is that the spotlight seems to shine brighter on the looting, rather then the real issue, that people are still being murdered everyday due to the colour of their skin. To top it off, injustice is the usual outcome. Call me wrong but if my husband, dad, or grandad for example were murdered due to the colour of their skin, and justice wasn't served, I would expect/want an uproar, especially when cries for change have gone unheard, time and time again. I'm not saying this is the case right now, although I really hope it is, but when Dr Martin Luther King was murdered, 110 cities in America started rioting, causing $47M in damage. On the 6th day of the riots, the Civil Rights Act 1968 was passed. As I touched on earlier, I don't agree with looting but sometimes it's the last resort due to the build up of sheer anger and frustration. It's a shame that buildings can have have greater worth and respect then a black mans life. Burning buildings are a concern to me yes, but human life is more. I guess for some people, they are outright opportunists, again I don't agree with this. But, some people have the view that why should they care for the law when the law doesn't care for them.

People shouldn't have to live in fear of losing life due to skin tone. For black men especially, this can be a daily occurrence, particularly when the police are concerned.

George Floyd did not deserve to go the way that he did, nor did the countless brothers before him, especially by people who are suppose to serve and protect.

I can't believe that in 2020, one of my biggest fears for my unborn child, is how they could be treated due to the colour of their skin.

Please don't get me wrong, I don't condone any form of mistreatment or inequalities of others, and yes all lives matters. But right now, black lives matters, the injustice and unfair treatment is blatant and is too hard to ignore, nor can we kid ourselves that it isn't that bad, it really is.

PS I wanted to share my thoughts with everyone, not just you so please don’t think I’m singling you out. That was not my intention
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 21:02)
Ribbon and Licia (94,290) by Edward from USA
You two are ridiculous. When the person who has been cheated on is a "so called criminal", the cheater is justified. And besides, there's no evidence Mariah broke her rule of having only slept with five men or less. So, it's technically not cheating. I found that in Wikipedia too.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 19:09)
Re: Producers / this_is_qhm (94,285) (94,289) by Edward from USA
Oh my, that's a fresh idea nobody has ever mentioned here before. Pure genius.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 18:57)
Re: Ultimate disrespect (94,280) (94,288) by Licia from USA
Lmao Robert-Anthony hush. J/k. Glad I could provide some sort of comic relief. 2020 has definitely been a sh*t show.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 17:37)
Re: Producers / this_is_qhm (94,285) (94,287) by Bill from the UK
Best me to it.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 17:06)
Re: Ultimate disrespect (94,280) (94,286) by RibbonB from USA
Hilarious.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 16:24)
Re: Producers / this_is_qhm (94,283) (94,285) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Like Bruno Mars and The Smeezingtons?
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 15:14)
Re: What More Can I Give? (94,274) (94,284) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Perhaps it could be renamed "What More Can I Loot?" in honour of all those people and communities who have shown their true colours by using a tragedy to steal and generally act lawlessly under a banner of supposed protest.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 15:11)
Re: Producers / this_is_qhm (94,277) (94,283) by B from USA
Caution was definitely a step in the right direction. She desperately needed to work with new collaborators (writers and producers), and I hope she continues to work with new collaborators on her next album. I also still listen to Caution daily.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 14:33)
Re: Ultimate disrespect (94,273) (94,282) by Susana from USA
I'd like to read that prenup if anyone has a link to it.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 06:08)
Re: Ultimate disrespect (94,279) (94,281) by Licia from USA
Oh wow. I've been sleeping all day from working last night. I had no idea about the 1pm curfew. I need to check and see what it is for Houston.

I started not to even click on it, but I'm glad I did though. Anything else she has to say will fall on blind eyes because I won't see it. I'm going back to passing her name up. Lol.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 05:53)
Re: Ultimate disrespect (94,278) (94,280) by Bobby A from United States
Ladies, your conversation is so funny. We all are just overloaded with what a mess 2020 has been. It doesn't even feel like summer is coming in 3 weeks. But before you say it, I will say it for you. Be quiet Robert-Anthony. Nobody asked for your opinion. Lol.
(Wednesday 3 June 2020; 03:25)
Re: Ultimate disrespect (94,278) (94,279) by RibbonB from USA
I didn't have time for a thorough reading, but thank God you had some time. Girl I'm too concerned about murder hornets, covid monkeys and Trump the Nazi, to be arguing about Mimi 's bad acts and bad judgement and the end results. Maybe after the unrest dies down a little I can care about nonsense. They have 1pm curfews in LA.
(Tuesday 2 June 2020; 18:39)
Re: Ultimate disrespect (94,273) (94,278) by Licia from USA
Well Nikki I actually didn't respond to you. I responded Ribbon. That's who I was having a conversation with. The reason I didn't read your 2 paragraphs is because I knew what you wrote was a story straight out of a fairytale. None of the stuff you say is facts. It's all assumptions or made up stories to justify bad behavior found in Wikipedia. As much as I love to read, I can't be bothered to read crap. Have a blessed day.
(Tuesday 2 June 2020; 14:00)
Producers / this_is_qhm (94,277) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
As far as Caution is concerned it was definitely a step in the right direction, musically it was fresh but still MC. I still listen to the album daily, I just listened to it yesterday. The one thing I appreciate about Mariah is that she has a style, and sound that is her own. The only album that I would say was not totally MC's sound is Memoirs. However I appreciate the album for what it is. I do believe that MC can work with some unknown producers and strike gold.
(Tuesday 2 June 2020; 13:46)

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