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MIAMTEC (88,770) by Dove from United States It's funny how people's tastes can be so different. I actually loved MIAMTEC more than Caution. (Sunday 24 March 2019; 19:07)

Mariah, Damizza, the car (88,769) by Anonymous from UK I'm not saying Damizza's report is true or false, but before we respond with horror, judgement or call anyone a liar for suggesting that another human could be so unhappy they'd attempt suicide, especially one that first hand said she carried a bag in her car ready to be kidnapped, let's remember just a while back when some of us suggested Mariah had mental health problems/wasn't on the right medication/wasn't taking medication. The board was in uproar at the "rudeness" and "disrespect" of suggesting Mariah had mental health issues. It was true though. Also the uproar at Morgan's last reports that Mariah is ooc, detached, unstable and an alcoholic since 2001. Again, got rubbished and insulted. Now something else potentially scary is heard about Mariahs health, again we debase it. Mariah is a fragile, beautiful human, susceptible to everything all of here us are, including, possibly, the want to not be here in the dark moments. She's had a few. It was during her breakdown she discovered God. Maybe she did reach the point of suicidal thoughts. They'd never publicize/admit it, but if she did or didn't, it's a story we should maybe meet with reflection at others struggles rather than anger that someone we love but don't know could potentially feel that way. Love and respect to all, especially those hurting. (Sunday 24 March 2019; 10:42)

Re: Music (88,762) (88,768) by Billy from Greece I second that, enwar00. (Sunday 24 March 2019; 08:49)

Re: Why (88,752) (88,767) by jaker20 from US I have never heard anyone refer to SZA as having invented R&B. She is only popular because of her collabs to big names, I like her but by herself she has plenty to prove. As for Mariah, I previously used Paul McCartney as example who is decades her senior. He still releases albums and gets good reviews. I know the industry and public is less accepting of females past their prime but she can replicate that career path she will be fine. Caution is a huge step up from MIAMTEC, it was not a disaster. With the help of critical push I'm dreaming of her getting a Grammy nom for it next year but I maybe asking for too much. (Sunday 24 March 2019; 05:46)

Article: Mariah Carey - Butterfly (88,766) by Lainsky from Philippines After nearly 30 years, this album remains on the top of my list and my all time favorite album in the entire history of music. Butterfly, Breakdown, Honey, and The Roof will always stand out from the rest of her singles. My All, Fourth of July, Close My Eyes were all gems that I never skipped. It was a "defining moment" album of Mariah (IMHO) in her music career. (Sunday 24 March 2019; 05:23)

Re: Music (88,762) (88,765) by Marissa from USA My post was referring to Mariah the brand/business, not Mariah the woman. If Mariah feels that she needs to put out music to feel happy and whole, then by all means she should do it. Like someone on her said, her work in the studio is basically her biggest strength, so recording an album isn't the issue. What I was saying was that from a business return on investment perspective, unless promotion strategy or her genre radically changes where she has a fighting chance, it doesn't make sense to put out and promote albums to the mainstream until she turns 90 if they are selling less and less, charting less and less, getting less and less streams, the label doesn't take her seriously, and the music isn't even being sent to the right radio stations. Even my favorite (and the highest selling American) girl group of all time TLC retired from putting out more albums in 2017, which crushed me personally, but I respect it on a business level because it wasn't worth it anymore to keep putting out great content for it to be ignored. That's why I said previously I would like to know what Mariah's intention is when she puts out music: is it 100% a hobby with no care of its success or failure or is it still business? If it's business, it may be in her best interest to change direction, change strategy or cut her losses at some point in her life. If it's strictly for personal fulfillment then she can put out and promote albums at 98 with a gray wig and no teeth for all I care. I just don't believe that Mariah's at the point where she doesn't care at all about the business of "Mariah Carey" and neither are most lambs or there wouldn't be so many streaming, charting, image or views discussions when her albums come out if it was strictly about the sound of her music, and that's it. (Sunday 24 March 2019; 03:06)

The documentary (88,764) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) This latest documentary is same one that was shown in the UK not too long ago and a lot of it was a tall tale and exaggeration especially the part about the car. At this point anything coming from Damizza is based on him still sucking on sour grapes and honestly I think that he just like Stella, Walter, and others are just upset that Mariah has moved on with her life and she has not looked back and has been able to find happiness and sustain success without them. Obviously these people need MC’s name for people to even pay attention to them no matter who they have been afflicted with after. (Saturday 23 March 2019; 23:31)

Hi lambs (88,763) by Denny from United States Hi everybody, I've been a lamb forever and have been on this site for a long time and I feel like I know you. Figured it was time to "say something, say something". (Saturday 23 March 2019; 23:04)

Music (88,762) by enwar00 from usa Why shan't Mariah just keep making music because she wants to? The answer is, she can. If it's something that makes her happy, and she is still capable, then why not. How stifling to stop doing what you love based on your past successes. Maybe popularity and sales and streams are not the only measurements of success anyway. (Saturday 23 March 2019; 19:23)

Re: Remix video (88,759) (88,761) by RibbonB from USA Yes It is. (Saturday 23 March 2019; 18:07)

Re: Why (88,752) (88,760) by Matthew from USA I think Mariah can continue to release music for as long as she wants to. Aretha dropped a covers album before she passed and Patti recently dropped a jazz album. So Mariah can do something like that. As of right now, she can also drop an album with current sounds. The reason for this is very superficial, but it's true. Mariah still looks good. The thing with Janet, Madonna, or Lil Kim trying to put out a current club banger is that, well, the plastic surgeries aren't able to mask their age anymore. And in this superficial world, if you don't look hot you can't try to make hot music, at least if you are a woman. Mimi seems to be in the JLo group for the genetic lottery, which means she can actually still try to do something a little current. Another thing working in her favor is that unlike JLo, Janet, Kim and Madonna, Mariah's act involves ballads and ballgowns, which translates well into old age. So even when she moves into full elder matron mode, she can still kind of do her ballgown diva thing without it being weird or desperate. (Saturday 23 March 2019; 16:14)

Re: Remix video (88,753) (88,759) by Norman from USA That Lizzo track , "Tempo" is fire. (Saturday 23 March 2019; 04:01)

Mizza full on lied (88,758) by THE TRUTH from USA Mariah's brother was with her during her first two breakdowns and told the film makers in no uncertain terms that Mizza was lying, she absolutely did not try to jump out of car and did in no way attempt suicide. (Saturday 23 March 2019; 03:21)

Walter Afanasieff (88,757) by Dove from United States Just to be clear, I said someone "like" Walter Afanasieff, not Walter Afanasieff himself. (Friday 22 March 2019; 23:53)

Mariah retire? (88,756) by Dove from United States Mariah's albums have never disappointed me. I feel like being in the studio is her forte and she never goes wrong in that area. If she needs to make money she should keep touring but if she's okay with the money she's made, and what she's accomplished so far, she should just relax and travel with her kids and make straight to consumer albums. For fun. Just for herself and the lambs. A lot of us don't love R&B but we'll still support her because we love her voice. But maybe she can throw us a few bones and record an album of standards or jazz or gospel songs. (She could get someone like Walter Afanasief who can knows how to make the computer sound like real instruments.) Before she leaves the record company she should release all the B-sides and unreleased tracks and maybe a collection of her best performances and the Tokyo concert. And any other gems we don't know about. She has to make an announcement that this is what she's doing so us fans can lower our expectations and accept that she's not going to chart anymore, because she can't without the support from the machine. (Friday 22 March 2019; 22:56)

Re: Okay, please nobody get mad (88,746) (88,755) by Randy from USA Bill even I would say that's too mean. Even though I laughed out loud and partially agree. (Friday 22 March 2019; 21:11)

Re: Why (88,740) (88,754) by jaker20 from US B, I guess when I meant collab, I meant songs where she relegates her role to a feature. This opens her world into different artists and be inspired and reach a new audience. Sure it's a massive downgrade but she is lending her name and she is getting updated. Honestly this is her only way into current music landscape again. But if she can break through with one hit she will open her discography to generation z who don't know her songs outside of Christmas. That is how she rebooted herself with I Know What You Want. Five years is a long time to be gone in mainstream, but 10 years since Obsessed, well that is basically retirement to some people. Many generation z don't even know her songs at all. (Friday 22 March 2019; 20:24)

Remix video (88,753) by RibbonB from USA It's actually a little more interesting to watch than the original. It's hard to understand what Stefflon Don is saying though. Oh well, she just got two YouTube streams from me. I'm liking the new Missie track with Lizzo. I wonder if it will get airplay. I suspect, yes. (Friday 22 March 2019; 18:31)

Re: Why (88,742) (88,752) by Marissa from USA You, B, and jaker20 have given me a lot of food for thought on why Mariah's success seems to have a ceiling on it. I definitely agree that R&B is dead, but only if an older artist is doing it. If someone like SZA or H.E.R does R&B, people act like they practically invented the genre. If someone over 40 does it, it's seen as an older artist doing the same old shit. I know this is blasphemy to some lambs, but there is a point where Mariah needs to retire from making new music not because she doesn't make good music, but for the sake of her legacy and leaving on the highest note possible. I don't want her to be the artist that doesn't know when to say when and has to be essentially dragged out or crowded out of the industry by new artists. No matter how much lambs endlessly want new music, there's a point where it's not a good look. Especially for an artist who has seen such unfathomable success early on that there is nowhere to go but down, even on her best day. If the label is already putting her out to pasture now, it's not going to get any better as she continues to get older, has lukewarm sales, and continues to stick to R&B unless a miracle happens. I don't want to watch my favorite artist continue to put out great bodies of work and keep getting played and trivialized by the music industry. I'm sure people could argue that as long as she puts out good albums, who cares about its success, but it's just the principle of it that I want people to put some respect on her name. She's accomplished too much to be so dismissed. (Friday 22 March 2019; 18:17)

To Bill (88,751) by Mariahsbaby from usa The lies, the hatefulness and dare I say the jealousy in this board is real. Mariah has been singing live this entire tour, every article posted about her has had nothing but kind words about her voice. Literately all of the comments I have seen from people who were at the show are singing a different tune. I'm honestly convinced that a lot of people here don't love Mariah anymore (hell they don't even like her) and just wants drag/bring her down. Let me clarify something to the haters, Mariah is the most successful female singer songwriter and producer of all time. The industry biggest hit maker and my angel. Mariah will forever be on the history books and you creatures will be forgotten once you leave this board. PS: Kinda funny how this is coming from a Brit, when their greatest female singer Adele (this generation) is not even comparable with the top 10,000 greatest vocalists from America. I just had to laugh. Side note: My baby would kill an umbrella any day of the week. (Friday 22 March 2019; 18:13)

Live action (88,750) by Dove from United States When I say live action I mean like Beauty and the Beast with Emma Watson and Cinderella with Lily James, not The Sound of Music with Carrie Underwood. So nobody would actually be singing live. (Friday 22 March 2019; 17:48)

Re: Okay, please nobody get mad (88,746) (88,749) by Edward from USA Mariah can also replicate "ella ella" live. You should've been more thorough in your post. (Friday 22 March 2019; 17:42)

Re: Why (88,742) (88,748) by Dove from United States Good points. If I were her I'd probably just tour too, for the time being. (Friday 22 March 2019; 17:35)

Re: Okay, please nobody get mad (88,747) by Dove from United States Ursula wanted Ariel's voice because that's what Eric was attracted to, and she was setting her up to fail (because she wanted her soul), not because she actually wanted her singing voice - Ursula has a great singing voice already. Mariah looks young but not that young. Ariel is a teen and Mariah can pull off maybe 28. If she played Ariel that would look ridiculous. She could play a young princess in an animated princess movie but not a live action one. In my opinion. Ursula is a way more interesting character anyway. Ariel is a young and dumb girl. She sold her soul for a guy she didn't even know. Ursula is a shrewd business woman. I think we all start out as Ariel but end up as Ursula. Plus, Mariah has that voluptuous womanly body and a tiny waist. Ariel has a teenager body. Ariana is a talented singer but nobody sounds better than Mariah in a studio recording. She could knock it out if the park if done right. Realistically I know this would never happen but it was a fun thought so I wanted to share it. (Friday 22 March 2019; 17:34)

Re: Okay, please nobody get mad (88,741) (88,746) by Bill from the UK The only song I can see Mariah covering these days is Rihanna's Umbrella. Only because Mariah can pull off the "eh eh eh" part live, as that's all she can manage without a wall of backing singers, pre-record, hoists, pulleys, chaise lounges, ear pieces, corsets and lip syncing. God loves her. (Friday 22 March 2019; 16:17)

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