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Re: Best opening line (97,776) (97,778) by Bill from the UK Agree. "It wasn't raining yet, but it was definitely, a little misty in that warm November night" is by far her best opening line. (Thursday 8 April 2021; 16:44)

Re: Best opening line (97,776) (97,777) by Leo from LAMBville I was a wayward child. (Thursday 8 April 2021; 14:45)

Re: Best opening line (97,752) (97,776) by Tijl from Belgium "It wasn't raining yet." Her most atmospheric song to date. (Thursday 8 April 2021; 13:57)

MOAIA Dream demo-ish song (97,775) by Victoria from USA Has anyone listened to Finding Hope's 3:00 a.m.? It's probably a song everyone has already heard. I just know it's the first non Miss Carey song that I'm really gonna enjoy this summer. (Thursday 8 April 2021; 03:40)

Re: Stokley Williams (97,767) (97,774) by Bobby A from United States I thought that was the case with Stokley. Thank you for your detective work. (Thursday 8 April 2021; 00:38)

Article: Busta Rhymes and Mariah Carey's video drops today (97,773) by Dave from Canada From YouTube 29 sec clip, then in description. (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 22:12)

Article: Busta Rhymes and Mariah Carey's video drops today (97,772) by The Real Deal from USA The article is wrong. It is on Facebook today, not YouTube. (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 21:36)

Article: Busta Rhymes and Mariah Carey's video drops today (97,771) by The Real Deal from USA I thought the video was premiering at 12PM EST. I don't see it on YouTube yet. (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 21:21)

Re: Andrew's one trick pony (97,766) (97,770) by Leo from LAMBville After months of reading the message board I figured I'd throw my 2 cents into the ring of comments about Andrew. I will disregard any reply with his reaction to the post as personal enjoyment; as my opinion he feeds from reaction and self appointed superiority. I have went back and read months of posts from Andrew and his commentary and interactions are flat out mean spirited and combative to both the forum community and directed at Mariah herself. We do understand "Mariah" is a product, not just physical merchandise but the act of Mariah is something that a lot of us do subscribe to, the "eternally 12" to her high diva moments. I do agree to some points he has made as we all have level of critique to everything in life music, celebrities, food, weather etc. However, Andrew time and time again finds his lack of true personal skills to push others down to lift himself up. He is very intelligent, maybe very educated but his social ineptitude appears may be driven by lack of personal acceptance? I would enjoy his well written and journalistic approach to valid critiques of Mariah projects and others opinions (even if disagree) if it wasn't for the majority uncouth interactions. We believe others perceive us as we see ourselves. What an ultimate let down. I encourage anyone who may feel the same way to not even engage to his quoted replies. If you have a difference of opinion or belief communicate it with the respect that you're entitled to your thought process but can do it without being a clown. Stay Blessed! (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 18:00)

Re: Andrew's one trick pony (97,768) (97,769) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I replied to a message aimed at me on a message board. You're so busy you read it. You're a silly little kid. Don't call me bro. You can call me Sir. Because I know stuff. (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 17:43)

Re: Andrew's one trick pony (97,766) (97,768) by SM from Citizen of the World Bro, you got to much time on your hands. (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 16:33)

Re: Stokley Williams (97,764) (97,767) by Leo from LAMBville So after some light research, Stokley Williams does some studio drums and vocal work for various artists. No credits found to Williams for any of Mariah’s stuff that has been released, however has been listed for co-vocals on a remake of AIWFCIY by an artist by the name of "PJ Morton". Interesting find though Lamb. Sounds like just putting big names to themselves to look more versed in the industry, or a project that was never released or talked about still in the vault. (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 14:35)

Re: Andrew's one trick pony (97,760) (97,766) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Mariah's 'eternally 12' has to do with her trauma, not her age." Quote where she has said this. Or you are just extrapolating loosely to defend it. "She's been saying this since her 20's." Since her birth year was possibly altered. Yes. "...which has to do with combating ageism, not just a singular year." So above you said it was not changed due to her age, it was her trauma. But look here, it's now because of her age (but it's because of other peoples view of it so, heyyyy, totally innocent). "I hate to break it to you, Andrew, but the music industry's PR has always tried to make their stars as young as conceivable." You aren't breaking anything to me, accept a level of unwarranted smugness. "They are well aware of ageism in the industry. When Eminem came out they passed him off as 25 instead of 27. Nicki Minaj was passed off as 24 at 28. J.Lo was also promoted to be 28 when she was 30. Most of their true ages weren't revealed until they were arrested. Others came out in time and nobody noticed. They just started printing the right age." So it was not about all of their own "traumas"? How strange. "Mariah was hired during a time period when women were considered 'over' the moment they hit 30." Over at 30? Quote your sources. Because it's bollocks. "If a woman was still riding a fame wave when that happened than her days were considered numbered. You can ask Madonna all about that struggle." Shall I quote how many female artists have had success over the age of thirty? The issue is that younger people also deserve their time in the lime-light and there's only so much capacity in the industry. "This is why many singers turned actress." I "hate to break it to you". Mariah did not turn "actress" in order to get work, don't waste my time. She did it because of vanity. Come at me with truth and fact, not opinions designed to defend someone under the idea of intersectional politics. Don't waste my time. (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 13:53)

Re: Andrew's one trick pony (97,762) (97,765) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes your point is coming across properly. Thanks. The market often gets me with the 19.99 trick. Personally I think the youth madness is totally overrated because for my taste people are really getting interesting at their late twenties and at 30. Of course Mariah had charisma since day one but was getting more and more interesting too. (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 10:15)

Stokley Williams (97,764) by Bobby A from United States I was reading Stokley Williams' website. He is the lead singer and drummer of the band Mint Condition. His biography says that he has done studio work with MC. I can't figure out what song he worked on with MC. Does anybody know? (Wednesday 7 April 2021; 02:13)

WIB radio request day April 13 (97,763) by T from USA I know it's a long shot because of ageism, a dwindling fan base, etc but maybe all the lambs should banned together and request WIB at rhythmic radio the day it goes for adds April 13th. A hip hop collab might actually get some traction. With a mild radio hit Mariah could actually leverage for better bargaining on her next project. WIB might actually open a little crack in the door if it slowly takes off a bit at radio. It will be a lot easier to call urban and rhythmic and request the new Busta joint then it will be requesting the next Mariah single (especially if it sounds anything like With You). I don't want Mariah to end up like some of her peers regarding radio. What do you say? One last old fashioned radio request day April 13 to give Where I Belong the best chance at a good start. (Tuesday 6 April 2021; 19:43)

Re: Andrew's one trick pony (97,761) (97,762) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter It's the "visual" too like tricking people to buy something by writing "19.99" instead of "20$". Old marketing trick makes you think you're paying less. Similarly being born in 1969 will make Mariah a "60's" baby, versus 1970 makes her a "70's" baby. So she sounds "younger". I don't know if my point is coming across properly. But this is very common. And like I said previously it's something most women face, ageism and the burden to be "young". So I can only imagine how much it matters in the glamour world of Hollywood where women have a shelf life. (Tuesday 6 April 2021; 17:32)

Re: Andrew's one trick pony (97,760) (97,761) by MusicfanJ from Germany I still don't get it. Of course the media has youth-madness. But where's the diffrence between the best new singer (the one and only Mariah) at age 20 or 21 with the debut. It's ridiculous. One year is nothing, it makes no sense to me. (Tuesday 6 April 2021; 12:53)

Andrew's one trick pony (97,760) by Nikki from usa Mariah's "eternally 12" has to do with her trauma, not her age. She's been saying this since her 20's. Which is just as long as her "anniversaries" which has to do with combating ageism, not just a singular year. I hate to break it to you, Andrew, but the music industry's PR has always tried to make their stars as young as conceivable. They are well aware of ageism in the industry. When Eminem came out they passed him off as 25 instead of 27. Nicki Minaj was passed off as 24 at 28. J.Lo was also promoted to be 28 when she was 30. Most of their true ages weren't revealed until they were arrested. Others came out in time and nobody noticed. They just started printing the right age. Mariah was hired during a time period when women were considered "over" the moment they hit 30. If a woman was still riding a fame wave when that happened than her days were considered "numbered". You can ask Madonna all about that struggle. This is why many singers turned actress. An actress could still have a career in her 30's. They mix and match those careers for longevity. (Tuesday 6 April 2021; 03:52)

Re: Best opening line (97,757) (97,759) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter That is one of my favorite interview quotes from her. When I heard her say it I was like "damn girl, she's spitting fire" and rightfully so. She must have felt so vindicated with the comeback. (I know she hates the word "comeback" haha.) (Tuesday 6 April 2021; 03:33)

Re: Epic vs Def Jam for Mariah? (97,754) (97,758) by Nikki from usa Mariah didn't have a choice to stay at Universal. They didn't offer her another contract. She had a 3 album deal with Epic. She's only released 1 album of new music, so she still has 2 more albums of original music to go. One of the perks of returning to an old label at this stage in her career is the compilations she can release and have control over. By recording a new version, she can have full rights over it. She would own the masters to this version instead of Universal getting paid for it. (Tuesday 6 April 2021; 03:32)

Re: Best opening line (97,755) (97,757) by Stacey from USA I love that. I remember when Barbara Walters asked her what she thought of her critics that counted her out. She's like well if they counted me out, they'll just have to count me back in. Iconic is right. (Monday 5 April 2021; 23:05)

Re: Best opening line (97,755) (97,756) by Bobby A from United States I am riding home in pain again babe. But that don't mean s**t to you. I love the opening of "One and Only". Luis must have been doing some crazy things behind MC's back. (Monday 5 April 2021; 22:28)

Re: Best opening line (97,752) (97,755) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter "I came to have a party." Iconic because she came back guns blazing after she was completely written off. (Monday 5 April 2021; 21:13)

Re: Epic vs Def Jam for Mariah? (97,751) (97,754) by The Real Deal from USA Her "We Belong Together - Late Night Valentine's Mix" was released through Tunecore, which is an independent artist release site. So is she indie now, or still with Sony? (Monday 5 April 2021; 17:31)

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