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Re: A No No getting no airplay (88,543) (88,546) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
Would you rather see Mariah in concert, or listening to her on the radio?

She hasn't had a hit since #Beautiful, all her singles after that have been flops. Is then A No No a flop, if a flop is the standard? No, A No No is the best single and video Mariah has released in years, for us fans to enjoy. I don't think many here think that Mariah will have massive hits again. I don't even think Mariah her self thinks that.

So, if I understand you correctly, a new single, a cool new video, a tour, is not enough for you. She has to be everywhere, omnipresent, in the US and in Germany at the same time, on every magazine cover and on every talkshow. Don't you think Mariah her self is a bit tired of this? Don't you think Mariah herself is enjoying her millions of dollars, while still have the opportunity to express herself through music, getting the critical appraisal she has deserved for years?

This is not enough, is it, for you?

Tell me, what kind of standards do you have for your own life? I hope you are busy doing everything you can possibly do to get the most out of time. I guess you don't have minute to spare, succeeding on every level in your life.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 15:46)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,542) (88,545) by Bill from the UK
Open to interpretation. "Long ago, you used to want me. Now it's all so far away, but you still haunt me" is the same as "I can't remember when you last were tender, as it's always touch and go, the silence chills me to the bone". Both indicate someone used to be passionate about her and now they're not. And PS Everything Fades Away was published in 1993. Don't know where this "unused Emotions track" theory sprang from (based on no evidence at all) unless you can point me to the quote saying that?
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 15:38)
At this point (88,544) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
At this point bringing up the same topics without any clear information and understanding is pointless. Until MC chooses to speak on these topics such as her voice we can continue to assume what happened. I no longer need an answer for myself. I appreciate MC for her limitations as long as she is healthy and able to give me quality music I am ok. If I choose to continue to bring up the MC that was from 1990-1996. This is why YouTube and DVD’s and other forms of media somewhat still exist. But we all have certain things regarding MC that we want answers to but that does not mean that we are entitled to them. Let’s keep that in mind.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 14:44)
Re: A No No getting no airplay (88,538) (88,543) by SM from Citizen of the World
The meaning of the message is that if she doesn’t do any promotion for her singles she will continue to flop and flop and flop. And a tour and music video is not good enough promotion for her at this stage in her career.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 13:46)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,528) (88,542) by B from USA
Long Ago and Slipping Aaway do not have similar themes. One is about the end of a relationship and the other is about thinking about a past love.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 12:41)
The tour (88,541) by Jeff from USA
I love that critics and the lambily alike are embracing the tour. MC looks amazing and seems to be genuinely having fun. The song list is the freshest in years. Good for you, MC.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 11:38)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,535) (88,540) by Licia from USA
I know this wasn't the point of your post Bill, but I did not know Melt Away was supposed to be on Waiting to Exhale. It would have fit in nicely with that soundtrack.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 11:38)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,535) (88,539) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
Totally agree. Everything Fades Away and Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen leaves you with very nice impressions of both albums. Those ending tracks makes you wanna play the album all over again immediately, or just put the last track on repeat.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 10:27)
Re: A No No getting no airplay (88,533) (88,538) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
Ok, and what is your suggestion then? She released the video and is currently on tour. You wanted her to be everywhere, not doing enough. What was the meaning of the message?
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 10:24)
Re: Leave MC alone (88,531) (88,537) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
You seriously want to start this discussion, again? Is there more to explore? Is there still stuff to dissect? Are we all again going to give our opinions on what happened to Mariah's voice in 1998? Are you thinking this message through? I got exhausted just by reading it.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 10:22)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,529) (88,536) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
Yes, when I first started to become a fan of Mariah in 1998, Daydream was the first album I bought besides Butterfly, and after that, Music Box. Everything Fades Away was my favourite Mariah song for the beginning years of my fandom.

It was so dreamy, always listened to it maybe twenty times in bed before going to sleep. The song induced such good feelings in my body.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 10:19)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,529) (88,535) by Bill from the UK
Agree. It's the same for God Rest Ye Merry Gentleman (which wasn't designated a bonus track, it was simply the ending of Merry Christmas, again, everywhere except America). Jesus Oh What a Wonderful Child is a brilliant, amazingly delivered performance, but I loved how the acapella of GRYMG dials it all back down and again leaves the album on a somewhat haunting note. Why settle for one Mariah when you can twenty of them harmonising with each other? During Rainbow promo interviews, MC said it was her first album that ended on a "happy note", which indicates she may have viewed EFA as the closer for Music Box, much as some people may not want to hear it. I don't buy this whole Tommy "demanding" songs be removed notion as there is zero evidence for that. If that was the case, EFA wouldn't have been on the Hero single nor on more releases of Music Box than it wasn't. As for Slipping Away, arguably Long Ago has the exact same theme and message and that remained on the album without a problem. I prescribe to the theory that it was in fact replaced with Melt Away, which was originally planned by Mariah and Babyface to be part of Waiting to Exhale.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 09:05)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,528) (88,534) by RibbonB from USA
Speaking of Slipping Away, Dave Hall the co-writer, was married to Wanda Sykes at that time. Maybe it was about his marital discord. Kidding, who knows? But his is a name we rarely hear these dsys, yet his accomplishments are impressive.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 03:33)
Re: A No No getting no airplay (88,512) (88,533) by SM from Citizen of the World
No, I was stating what she needs to be doing in order for the song to go somewhere today or any of her songs. And that the video and tour will not do anything to help the song. That's all.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 02:07)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,529) (88,532) by Andrew from London, UK
"Just turn a-rowond." EFA is the perfect ending to the album because the album is almost one non-stop powerhouse vocal. EFA is as if Mariah is leaving the studio and driving into the sunset streets with the top down chilling out and being pensive. The piano melody is haunting especially when accompanied with "It only fades, it only fades..." floating over it. "Every everythi-yeng fades awaaaay" and "Nothing ever stays the same babe, nuth-ing ever stays the same" make the song worth listening to alone.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 01:56)
Leave MC alone (88,531) by Randy from USA
I'm tired of this stupid ass idea that MC can't sing like she used to because she's 48. MCs voice started changing in live performances in 98 and was in a downward trajectory after that with a few glimpses of brilliance randomly peppered throughout. In 98 she was 28. What's the excuse for that?
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 01:49)
Watching MC for the first time tomorrow (88,530) by John from USA
Finally going to see MC live for the first time tomorrow - and I've been a fan since 1990 hahaha. Watching her four rows away from the stage. So excited since I wanna see her sing 8th Grade live (just has a personal meaning for me). Maybe she'll sing The Beautiful Ones since this is Prince's hometown as a sort of tribute, but that would be a long shot, lols.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 01:05)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,465) (88,529) by Jamie from UK
For me Everything Fades Away is Music Box. The words bonus track never meant anything as it just felt part of the album. I think us Brits had it good with it being on the album and hearing it as a whole. It’s the perfect ending to the album
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 00:32)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,522) (88,528) by B from USA
In my opinion, it would sound out of place on Music Box. Music Box is a pop album and closing the album with an R&B ballad wouldn't work. Maybe Everything Fades Away was the first song Mariah wrote and recorded for the album before Tommy and the other Columbia executives demanded that she make a more pop leaning album after Emotions underperformed compared to her debut. Or it was written during the Emotion sessions and not recorded until she began work on Music Box. Maybe she'll address why these beloved songs were relegated as b-sides in her memoirs. All that's ever been said is that the were deemed too urban to be included on their perspective albums. We all know Slipping Away wasn't included on Daydream because it addressed the martial discord between her and Tommy.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 00:23)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,514) (88,527) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
I didn't come with an explanation for why Americans who like the song do it, it was an explanation for why the Americans who don't like the song, don't like it.

You know, you can't use the same explanation for why some people like tall people to explain why some people like short people.

So, for the Americans who don't like EFA, it can be explained by cognitive dissonance. One of the reasons for why some Americans do like the song, might be that they don't have cognitive dissonance in this particular case. But further explanation I don't have for the time being.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 00:16)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,521) (88,526) by Edward from USA
It's so evident it was Andrew.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 00:10)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,504) (88,525) by enwar00 from usa
It was on the US Hero single, at least the maxi single. Just saying. Personally I didn't care for it when I was young, I also thought it was boring. As the years have gone by I can appreciate it more. I can see how it would be a good album closer. With that said, I think All I Ever Wanted is a good album closer as well, with its grandness and all. Hmm. I'll go listen to them both now.
(Wednesday 13 March 2019; 00:09)
Make You Happy (88,524) by Bobby A from United States
I wish MC would record her own version of this song. This is my favorite Trey Lorenz song that he has recorded.
(Tuesday 12 March 2019; 23:05)
Re: On my way (88,497) (88,523) by TJ from Norway
Looking forward to hear what you think of the show. I hope that the concert will give you some time to relax and don't think about working.
(Tuesday 12 March 2019; 22:53)
Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,506) (88,522) by TJ from Norway
I guess I love EFA because I heard it in 93, when it was released in Europe. I was 16 at the time and everything Mariah did was just right (except for one or two songs on Emotions). I have never thought that the song isn't similar to the rest of the album. Maybe fans in the USA have the same nostalgic feeling about the US version without EFA.
(Tuesday 12 March 2019; 22:48)

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