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Re: What I don't get about MC's networth (74,040) (74,041) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Stella knows how to make herself some side cash. That's why she keeps Mariah booked in stuff regardless of whether it's up to Mariah's standard or not. I find it difficult to understand how someone like Mariah who has been in the business (and burned several times by people she trust including her own blood) still doesn't see how mixing her business with her personal life is only going to make things worse. I also don't get how she thinks people on her payroll can ever be true transparent friends to her. And people that still are transparent with her (like Lee who went on record to say that Mariah is too fragile to be doing a reality show and JD who said that sometimes Mariah doesn't take her career seriously, and Randy who said he told Mariah it's not a good idea to get in a reality show) get the kick (literally for Lee haha and JD was boycotted for quite a while). Do I agree that these people should have gone public to say these? No, but who knows, maybe they tried to speak to her privately and it didn't work. I mean she gets really pissed whenever anyone calls MW a reality show yet she herself said that it's not what she hoped it would be. Anyways back to her not getting what Stella is doing, for someone like Mariah, who has been played so many times, I'm surprised she's not suspicious of Stella at all even after all the huge consecutive messes that Stella pulled. (Thursday 30 March 2017; 11:08)

Re: What I don't get about MC's networth (74,029) (74,040) by Mara from United States I really think Mariah is going to regret signing this on with Stella. This is Mariah's and her children's ticket in years to come and if this movie actually does take off or become a classic, Stella will always get part of the royalties. Say she and Stella finally have that falling out and Mariah is finally "done" with her and puts up that wall, she will always be tied to her with her favorite time of year. For MC's sake I do hope it does well, dumb move on Mariah's part, smart one on Blusherella. (Thursday 30 March 2017; 06:35)

Re: The Art of Letting Go (74,034) (74,039) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia I personally think that "The Art of Letting Go" is Mariah's best ballad since "Butterfly" - and is one of my all time favourites. People's tastes are so interesting. I, for instance, would take "Infinity" or "I Dont" any day over "You're Mine (Eternal)". (Thursday 30 March 2017; 05:02)

Re: What I don't get about MC's networth (74,029) (74,038) by Lila from United States Say it again. People forget that as easy as money comes is as easy as it can go and too many things point towards Mariah needing money, even if she's not necessarily broke. Yet it's certainly hasn't been lost on me either that her energy seems to be devoted to acquiring any little bit to support these leeches. They all partake in Mariah's lifestyle on Mariah's dime but not can afford it nor, at least, offer Mariah "gas money" so-to-speak to help her upkeep it. Stella is certainly not top of the heap as far as producers go. She hasn't done anything for Mariah's career that's bringing in much money on for Mariah, let alone herself and Mariah is the first artist she's ever managed. The rest are just useless. Tonka Toy is just a broke idiot she keeps around for dumbass entertainment. I wish Mariah would do the smart thing and realize that one of the best things she could do for her pocketbook would be drop all these leeches and letting employees take advantage 24/7. (Thursday 30 March 2017; 02:08)

Re: Last Daydream era performance (74,030) (74,037) by Lee from UK I'm not sure which was her first performance in 1997 but Wikipedia says the first live performance of Honey was in the UK on ToTPs. So I am assuming it is this video. I could be entirely wrong though and someone else here may know better? (Thursday 30 March 2017; 01:04)

Merriest Christmas on Hallmark (74,036) by Musti from UK Just watching this special from a couple of years ago. I'd almost forgotten how amazing she was here. From her voice to her ensembles, absolutely everything was on point. Silent Night from that night is one of her best performances of the song ever (in my opinion). I love her voice and all the faces she goes through on Joy to the World. This might also be the only time she actually sang Here Comes Santa Claus live (well, most of it anyway). Then there was the beautiful moment with Babyface. But my favourite is God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, in a rendition that easily rivals the album version. It's everything Mariah stands for: high chest, silky falsetto, melisma runs, sustained vibrato, (near) whistle and, most of all, absolute conviction to her art. You can watch the whole thing here. On a side note, at around 11:50 where the phone declares her love for Mariah, she says "Butterfly is my all-time fave. No, I mean Emotions." I wonder if Emotions is also Mariah's fave after Butterfly. (Thursday 30 March 2017; 00:44)

Re: Stand by me (74,026) (74,035) by Andrew from UK Stelly, when Mariah offers you a toke, just say "no". (Thursday 30 March 2017; 00:09)

The Art of Letting Go (74,034) by lil star from untied states Did anyone else dislike this song? It is her worst ballad in my eyes. Wasn't catchy had zero emotion behind it. The only thing I liked was that it gave us some of the last great vocal moments we got (I still play her impromptu performance to people that say she can't sing anymore). I guess the song allowed her to play around more with her vocals since it had no melody to speak of. I was kind of shocked when people started saying they loved it. I've at least gotten some drunken night plays out of "I Don't" and "You're Mine". I'm ignoring Infinity all together haha. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 23:56)

Re: Stand by me (74,032) (74,033) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I was thinking the same thing. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 22:04)

Re: Stand by me (74,026) (74,032) by RibbonB from USA Mariah didn't even get signed until 1988 and she would have been only 16 in 1986 so this doesn't even sound plausible. Not to mention Stand By Me would have been made at least in 1985 if it was released in 1986. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 21:23)

Re: Last Daydream era performance (74,025) (74,031) by Jamie from UK Love her there, so relaxed and down to earth. A time when you looked at her and had respect. I'm still a huge MC fan now but her erratic behaviour now over shadows the music. She could learn a lot from watching these humble performances and become that down to earth person again. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 20:39)

Re: Last Daydream era performance (74,025) (74,030) by Andrew from UK What was the first live performance of 1997? (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 19:45)

Re: What I don't get about MC's networth (74,023) (74,029) by RibbonB from USA Mariah supposedly said she was bleeding money when she hired Stella based on the way she handled her previous team, or the way she claims that team handled her. But based on the way she is feeding Stella and her family, Stella and her coven of accountants and lawyers, they are probably sucking the rest of her blood dry, or are so tied into it that she may never be able to let go. Stella co-producing this AIWFC movie is just her attempt to tie into a song that is a perennial money maker for Mariah. Mariah is rich, but with two young dependents and a multitude of parasitic dependents like BT and the bat Stella and crew she has got to keep the dough rolling in for them. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 19:16)

ILT - WBT (74,028) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter After a long time I watched the videos of ILT and WBT back to back (I listen to both songs regularly, but haven't seen the videos in a while). Anyways, I'm blown away by how perfect the videos are. All the videos in TEOM are perfect and high budget, fit for someone like Mariah, but this "mini story line" was such a great idea. There isn't a single flaw. We have vanity shots, "touching my body" moment but they don't look unnatural or weird or vulgar in any way, in fact they blend in nicely, loved the freestyle dance moves Mariah pulled on ILT. The videos are just amazing. Man TEOM was really an era, everything was perfect. All the videos were so amazing and I loved how each was different. With "Say Something" looking having the high fashion look, SIO having the "hood-riah" moment and all that good stuff. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 18:10)

Re: Last Daydream era performance (74,025) (74,027) by Edouard from France So beautiful you're right. Transitionnal period, in every way. Butterfly's on its way. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 17:30)

Stand by me (74,026) by Edouard from France I watched the movie "Stand by Me" the other day. It's from 1986 and Mariah was supposed to wright [sic] or use songs she had at the time for the soundtrack. I wonder if some songs on her first album would have been used had she chosen to go that direction instead of Sony. The movie is set in the 50's so sic I don't really see which song from her could have been used from the 1st album. Maybe from Emotions, since that album had influences from past decades. I don't know. This movie is quite good. Many well known actors of today in it: John Cusak, Kiefer Sutherland, Corey Haim, Corey feldman, young Jerry O'connel etc. Interesting don't y'all think? (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 17:14)

Last Daydream era performance (74,025) by Lee from UK I love discovering older live performances that I have not heard before. This video was Mariah's last performance during the Daydream era I believe and it is amazing to hear the Daydream era vocals mixed in with what would become the Butterfly era vocals. As one of the comments below the video states, it is quite sad to watch as you realise now that this was the last time we would ever hear the Daydream era vocals live. Everything about this video gives me chills as we had no idea what was happening behind the scenes, we had no idea her divorce was imminent and we had no idea that Mariah was going to become a butterfly. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 17:01)

Re: Mariah forgets the camera in this interview (74,022) (74,024) by Edouard from France I think I made a typo. I meant a very nice French interview. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 15:44)

Re: What I don't get about MC's networth (74,020) (74,023) by Lila from United States No one knows Mariah's net worth and that includes Forbes. The formula or formulas that Forbes uses has never been proven to be valid. Forbes and other net worth sites grossly overestimate celebrity networths more than anything. Net worth is assets minus debt, so to calculate it you would have to know each to calculate someone's net worth. Then on top of not knowing celebrities true assets and debts, a lot of these sites also act like celebrities don't have to pay taxes on income earned when they do and don't have lawyers, assistants, managers, chauffeurs, other employees, kids, and the upkeep of any properties or planes. Then there's still the expensive clothing, vacations, and the like. It's not weird that Mariah doesn't publish how much she makes. No one does. It's not smart for anyone to go around talking about their money. The only exceptions are those who own publicly traded companies or those who work in public jobs but make over a certain figure. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 14:08)

Mariah forgets the camera in this interview (74,022) by Edouard from France A very icy French interview that I had never seen before. A nice journalist, good questions, true answers even to the questions she doesn't want to really answer. It's a radio interview where she's being filmed and you can sense that's she's comfortable having this conversation with the host. She forgets about the camera. This is Mariah, the one everybody in the business talks about (Leed [sic] Daniels, Jussie Smolett, Kelly Clarkson, etc.). The beautiful soul. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 11:55)

Mariah, beautiful inside and out (74,021) by Edouard from France I just watched the Glaad awards again. Rarely has any show captured Mariah's soul so well. You can tell how beautiful she is inside and out through Lee Daniels speech. Her sense of humour and how humble she is through her speech. How funny she is and how she doesn't take herself too seriously at the 3'40 of Laverne Cox's speech. I love this woman. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 11:36)

What I don't get about MC's networth (74,020) by Nikki from usa It never changes. She's been estimated at over 500 million since 2010. By 2012, they claimed 510 million as if that's all she made in that time period. By 2014, everyone and their brother claimed over 520 million. Even Forbes publicly put her in their yearly list for 2015 with an estimated 27 million in earnings for just that year from what they knew and could calculate. We're now in 2017 and Mariah's net worth hasn't budged. I don't think anyone's calculated it truly. I do wonder just how accurate it was to begin with when so many publications don't even recognize she's a songwriter and producer too or that most of her tours have been done overseas. Where most of the data on her tours are concerned they're primarily for the US and sometimes Europe only. Mariah is odd for a diva in the sense that she never publicizes just how much she's making. Ironically, it was the leak of her prenup in 2009 that led to the 500 million figure when it was realized she had over 170 million in cold hard cash in the bank which made Forbes original estimate for the previous year of 225 million grossly underrated for a net worth. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 05:55)

Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001) (74,019) by Bill from the UK What a great post Marissa, thank you. I have been listening to the debut album non-stop lately, and it's because I want to "recapture all of the memories". That album for me is a window into the little girl who listened to the radio under the covers, sang with her mother, skipped school to write and record songs in a funky woodshop, and who had no proper shoes upon her feet. The little girl that believed in herself enough and knew what she wanted. She was beautiful, she sang beautifully, she wrote beautiful songs. When I listen to Vanishing now, I can't help but see it as me singing it to her. The lyrics are so poignant now. You're vanishing, drifting so far away, you're vanishing, you're vanishing away. (Wednesday 29 March 2017; 00:53)

Sumpin' nice (74,018) by Andrew from UK Time to say something nice. Been listening to Mariah all day whilst working from home. Isn't funny how we sing what Mariah sings, and not the chorus? It's not just that she comes up with the melodies and lyrics, thus, the songs - it's the actual vocal over the top that provides another ancillary melody - the main melody. AYNAF would not be the same song without the way she ad libs. Fantasy would not be the same song with just the chorus - I haven't sung the chorus in twenty years, except for "on and on and on" (shout out to Luke and his "on and on and on" knowledge). It's like she used to create songs, and then make them exciting when she stood in front of the mic. We need that again. So there. Sumpin' nice. Take it. Or leave it. Whatever. (Tuesday 28 March 2017; 23:22)

Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001) (74,017) by Norman from USA Amen to that, Marissa. (Tuesday 28 March 2017; 22:37)

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