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Re: Hey Lambs? (99,783) (99,787)
by Bobby A from United States
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It is almost March and still no news about what is definitely coming in terms of MC16. I am really sure she is hard at work on it. This year will give her 32 years in the music business. In addition to MC16, maybe she is preparing to release her first box set consisting of The Rarities 2, MC30, and The Butterfly Lounge. Something exciting is on the way for sure.
(Saturday 26 February 2022; 17:53)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,779) (99,786)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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That's easy: "Everything fades away", the whole outro with the last 30 seconds is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. Wowowo it only fades away, it only fades away, baby don't tell me. Heavenly.
(Saturday 26 February 2022; 17:44)
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Don't play that song for me (99,785)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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This song needs to be on the Rarities part two. How I wish she would record a pure soul or jazz album. Music with real background singers and musicians (not just beats) are missing. I always loved the Price Sisters and Melonie Daniels, they were truly the best and made Mariah's music even more magical.
(Saturday 26 February 2022; 17:38)
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Re: Hey Lambs? (99,783) (99,784)
by Anonymous from USA
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I know that I'm super excited for any new material. I want a brand new studio album, a new Christmas album, The Rarities Volume 2, then Volume 3. I want the Glitter movie released on digital with much more bonus material than the original DVD. The Mariah Carey ultimate music video library on digital (1990-present). I also want to see Mariah on the silver screen playing a role written specifically for her. I think she's hilarious but I'm afraid a lot of people don't understand her sense of humor. I hope everyone is safe in the Ukraine, it's horrible what's happening right now. I can't believe it's 2022 as to hear the word war again. The local news in Atlanta called it World War 3. Stay safe, send good thoughts and prayers to the Ukrainian people and everyone affected by this and have a great weekend.
(Saturday 26 February 2022; 16:46)
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Hey Lambs? (99,783)
by Angel from USA
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Who's anticipating a new album already?
(Saturday 26 February 2022; 04:56)
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Article: Mariah Carey at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (99,782)
by Angel from USA
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She looked so gorgeous!
(Saturday 26 February 2022; 04:50)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,779) (99,781)
by RibbonB from USA
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The "You and I" fade out. Mariah's adlbs are excellent.
(Friday 25 February 2022; 17:36)
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Re: Dennis (99,778) (99,780)
by Bill from the UK
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So glad you are okay Dennis.
(Friday 25 February 2022; 16:54)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,777) (99,779)
by Bill from the UK
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With ABMB, do you mean the wall of sound "you and I" fade out, or the live version that ends with the opening guitar strum? Personally both are superb.
(Friday 25 February 2022; 16:43)
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Re: Dennis (99,776) (99,778)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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I'm in Montevidro, Uruguay today, at work, I'm a seaman. Everyone at home is safe. Everything will be alright. Let's keep this place free of politics, it's my shelter right now. Thank you for asking TJ.
(Friday 25 February 2022; 02:47)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,773) (99,777)
by RibbonB from USA
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Ribbon, LULT, Faded and the most iconic, Always Be My Baby.
(Friday 25 February 2022; 01:33)
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Dennis (99,776)
by TJ from Norway
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Am I wrong, or is there a Dennis from Ukraine on this board? I hope you're safe, and that everything will turn out OK soon.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 23:58)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,772) (99,775)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes, Heartbreaker's acapella run down at the end is superb when you hear all the harmonising parts, really shows the "wall of sound" thing Mariah does so well. And yes, when I first listened to WBT for the first time I was nodding my head along nicely to it thinking it was different, a bit Breakdown-esque with the rapid fire delivery of the lines, and then the key change made me sit up and do exactly as you say haha.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 22:00)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,769) (99,774)
by Bill from the UK
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I just watched this one again Bobby A as it's been a while, you're right, great delivery and the gentle end she brings the song to is beautiful. I Still Believe is so underrated.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 21:58)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,771) (99,773)
by Edward from USA
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Wow, I've always thought the same thing. Mariah is great, but those girls elevated everything she did to another level, and she's always known that. Kelly Price was very pregnant when the "Mariah at Madison Square Garden" was taped. There was an ambulance ready for her in the back if she needed it, that's how important these amazing backup singer were for her and her music.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 17:20)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,766) (99,772)
by tadatorao from japan
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We Belong Together seems like an obvious choice. The ending immediately urges one to listen to the song from the beginning all over again. Not to mention the MTV Movie Awards live, albeit pre-recorded. Personally I like Heartbreaker with the stripping down harmonization towards the end, almost like a reverse of the building up at the song's beginning. Very satisfying.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 09:05)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,768) (99,771)
by Bill from the UK
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The original Fantasy is just pure ear candy, I love it. I too miss the Price Sisters and Melonie. What an era, and what a collective sound they all made. Honestly I sometimes think their contribution to Merry Christmas is massively overlooked. Without them it wouldn't sound half as amazing as it does.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 08:43)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,767) (99,770)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes, this was one of the best performances of My All she ever did, and she looked breath taking as well. I agree you could feel the hurt in her voice, and you understand why now having read the memoir and realising it was about DJ.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 08:41)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,766) (99,769)
by Bobby A from United States
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My favourite ending is MC's performance of I Still Believe from Around The World. The whole outro when she sings "Yeah I do, yeah I do" is just brilliant. I love that part. This is the MC that I miss and I hope returns with MC16. Great topic, Bill.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 05:56)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,766) (99,768)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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Shoobedobe do do do do from the pop version of Fantasy and Out Here on My Own. Fantasy pop version is actually one of my favourite songs by Mariah. Loverboy Firecracker reminds me original Fantasy a lot. Dreamlover ending is also one of my favourites, I miss Mariah with 5 backup singers from Music Box and Daydream eras.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 01:59)
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Re: Favourite ending (99,766) (99,767)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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My ultimate favorite ending is My All live at Rosie 1997. The "tonight, tonight... aaiiteee". Even Rosie responded with "beautiful" together with claps from the audience. The final note sounded so sad yet hopeful.
(Thursday 24 February 2022; 01:19)
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Favourite ending (99,766)
by Bill from the UK
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So stepping away from the racism and the woke conversations and bringing it back to Mariah, do any of y'all have a favourite ending of Mariah's?
Most of her lead singles have great endings, especially Emotions when the music and background singers all stop on the same note and she's left finishing her run acapella, and down to such a low note, considering the stratospheric heights she reached moments earlier.
I also love the "do do do" finish of Firecracker Loverboy.
(Wednesday 23 February 2022; 18:55)
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Re: Tommy the racist (99,764) (99,765)
by Geronimo from USA
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No harm done. I research and teach the stuff so I know how badly the United States school system has prepared students to know our own social history. Not that I'm assuming you are from the United States.
Tommy Mottola is definitely a classic US American record industry exploiter. I can't speak to his personal feelings or intentions - which are irrelevant. It's simply the role he positioned himself to play and proceeded to play to the tune of millions of bucks. Anybody seeking to get rich and famous with these major record labels plays one role or another in a race-aesthetic vaudeville circus. But I'm sure Tommy gets along just fine with a certain type of ethnic artist under ideal circum$tance$.
(Wednesday 23 February 2022; 18:54)
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Re: Tommy the racist (99,763) (99,764)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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Thank you for the explanation. I had no intention to hurt anyone's feelings by bringing up shoe shining. Definitely, I have misunderstood the reference. I took it quite literally.
(Wednesday 23 February 2022; 12:30)
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Re: Tommy the racist (99,758) (99,763)
by Geronimo from USA
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Wow, Bill. I get the sense that you didn't mean to but you just offered a great example of how capitalism, sexism, class, and racism informed Mattola's approach to Mariah Carey's early career and continues to shape how many of the "nostalgic ones" still yearn for her most marketable years. Impressive.
Personally, I wouldn't argue whether or not doing so makes him a racist. It's obvious enough to those who know and futile for those who don't want to know.
Still, understanding racism, accommodating racism, enriching yourself from cultural racism, enriching your company and your multi ethnic spouse through your expertise in managing impressions about racial aesthetics - that's as Amerikan as apple pie.
The reference to shining shoes is undoubtedly a US American racial slur tied directly to the history of shoe shining, personal service, zoning and other laws, and social customs in the U.S. that restricted African-Americans to menial labor. Most people, including United States citizens, are not steeped in the cultural heritage of the time from which that racial slur originates so I say the above without any intention to shame. Still, a lot of people (from my country) understand that it is is a racist term but pretend not to know under the assumption that the racist origin of the slur cannot be proven.
But any white man of Mottola's generation in the United States of Italian heritage who says that about a black man who is not a shoe shiner is without a doubt attempting to assert their purported racist superiority according to the state of racism in the United States as it existed when a wave of Italian immigrants entered the US and displaced African-American shoe-shining, barbering, and catering businesses in major US cities in the 19th century.
Whether or not the shoe fits, Tommy is wearing it.
(Wednesday 23 February 2022; 01:52)
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