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Eternal 12 (108,886) by Edward from USA Botox can render your face expressionless too. Unless you want to Cher your face up, there are new cosmetic procedures that take years of your face while still looking natural. I think Mariah's had minor procedures through the years, but nothing so dramatic though. (Wednesday 28 May 2025; 16:42) this is a reply to message 108,884

Eternal 12 (108,884) by TJ from Norway I don't have any evidence on the case, but hasn't some fans here written about her lack of facial expressions and it (surgery) might a reason for it? I don't know. There has been times during her career that I have watched her on tv shows, and I have been thinking that her face looks different since last time I watched her perform. She's 56 this year, has tons of money and work in an industry where it's sadly "normal" to fix things. Btw: 1 day, 14 hours and 39 minutes left before she release TEOM20. (Wednesday 28 May 2025; 09:21)

What version of Your Girl on Mimi Sessions? (108,885) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia May I know what version of that, is that the remix version or what? I really like the chorus when she sings "get with me tonight". (Wednesday 28 May 2025; 09:56)

Eternal 12 (108,884) by TJ from Norway I don't have any evidence on the case, but hasn't some fans here written about her lack of facial expressions and it (surgery) might a reason for it? I don't know. There has been times during her career that I have watched her on tv shows, and I have been thinking that her face looks different since last time I watched her perform. She's 56 this year, has tons of money and work in an industry where it's sadly "normal" to fix things. Btw: 1 day, 14 hours and 39 minutes left before she release TEOM20. (Wednesday 28 May 2025; 09:21) this is a reply to message 108,878

Eternal 12 (108,878) by MusicfanJ from Germany I hope not. I can't stand the Kardashians. Naturally beauty is the best. I'm always shocked when I see Pricella Presley. You can't tell her age anymore, but there's no mimic, like a mask. I always think that's spooky. And she was auch a beautiful woman, she didn't need it. Women like Andie McDowell, Sigourney Weaver and Helen Mirren are super role models, they look good and natural. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 19:48)

Eternal 12 (108,883) by Zachariah from Croatia *cat face (Wednesday 28 May 2025; 07:34) this is a reply to message 108,880

Eternal 12 (108,880) by Zachariah from Croatia I don't see that she had plastic surgery. I mean, it is not visible like when people get that car face or those puffed lips or similar. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 23:35)

Europe (108,882) by Bobby A from United States Nice. I will check out Croatia on the web as I plan my first trip to Europe. (Wednesday 28 May 2025; 01:12) this is a reply to message 108,881

Europe (108,881) by Zachariah from Croatia Croatia is a must to see. Beuatiful coastline and nice people. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 23:39)

Europe (108,881) by Zachariah from Croatia Croatia is a must to see. Beuatiful coastline and nice people. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 23:39) this is a reply to message 108,869

Europe (108,869) by Bobby A from United States Okay. I am planning my first trip to Europe in 2026. I know I want visit Capri where MC recorded some tracks from Charmbraclet. (Monday 26 May 2025; 18:54)

Eternal 12 (108,880) by Zachariah from Croatia I don't see that she had plastic surgery. I mean, it is not visible like when people get that car face or those puffed lips or similar. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 23:35) this is a reply to message 108,876

Eternal 12 (108,876) by TJ from Norway Do you guys think Mariah and Chris Jenner have been to the same plastic surgeon? They have some similarities in their faces at the moment. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 14:42)

Theory (108,879) by Sasha from Nomansland You might be right but I think she's involved in something even darker and more compromising. With all the dirt we're uncovering right now with the P. Diddy trial and human trafficking, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the string of deaths of several artists over the last decade have been covered up as suicides or overdoses. I just hope Mariah won't be another victim on the list of all these suspicious deaths. [Webmaster: This is the last message from crazy conspiracy theorists.] (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 19:57) this is a reply to message 108,874

Theory (108,874) by Lambi from USA I mean they did try to Britney Spear her. There was a part in her book (page 262) where she talks about Morgan had arranged a "spa" visit but it was actually a hardcore detox and rehab center. They administered her heavy, hard narcotics. Mariah said it made her sluggish, puffy and compliant. I believe this was them inducing mental illness to her. The book "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" reveals the MK ultra program, where they can give you mental illness via hard drugs. You'll have no choice but to be dependent on it, then you'll just be drugged to oblivion forever. I also vividly remember Mariah saying, "when I first found out about my diagnosis, I refused to believe it" which she was right. She never had mental illness to begin with. She was purposely driven to exhaustion to be easily irate. Pat knew which buttons to press and knew anyone who hasn't slept in a week will understandably snap. They then used her lashing out as an opportunity to misdiagnose, with the goal of inducing mental illness, to control her with drugs her whole life. I believe the mafia's desired effects have come into full bloom now. She is undoubtedly heavily depended on it; the dosage probably heightened, I would say right after NYE, when she exposed her BPD and admitted seeking "professional" help and probably even more so now, grieving Pat's death. Taking these meds is obviously a part of her pre-show ritual because she is rather sluggish and puffy. Every concert. I will categorize my assessment to be "allegedly" though, just to be marked safe. It's what I think make sense after recognizing what they've done to other pop stars and doing a deep dive in the history of Hollywood. I wouldn't say anyone is threatening her necessarily but I will say Mariah is aware of the patterns of their financial terrorism. So many have tried to come for her money. Right now Morgan (which is not to be trusted) is suing the crap out of her over her memoir. I think she is always working hard to afford top-notched lawyers, it really does take money to win cases. There's also a chance Morgan may be backed up again by the mafia. He was already in cahoots with the record company during Mariah's first breakdown and considering how many mainstream publications picked up this case. (People, The NY Times, Daily Mail, Today, Fox News, The Sun, Page Six etc.) A PR firm that's verifiably against Mariah is blasting these articles to the masses. I have read the filings and Morgan is relentless for her money. He is very technical and somehow found a way to forward this case into trial. Mariah will actually have swear under oath pretty soon. That and she's probably preparing to have more than enough sufficient funds for her biopic. Production and talent fees are expensive. It's maybe why she's working herself to the bone. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 11:21)

Eternal 12 (108,878) by MusicfanJ from Germany I hope not. I can't stand the Kardashians. Naturally beauty is the best. I'm always shocked when I see Pricella Presley. You can't tell her age anymore, but there's no mimic, like a mask. I always think that's spooky. And she was auch a beautiful woman, she didn't need it. Women like Andie McDowell, Sigourney Weaver and Helen Mirren are super role models, they look good and natural. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 19:48) this is a reply to message 108,876

Eternal 12 (108,876) by TJ from Norway Do you guys think Mariah and Chris Jenner have been to the same plastic surgeon? They have some similarities in their faces at the moment. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 14:42)

Reset (108,877) by Jamie from UK Can we get back to talking about Mariah and not these silly conspiracy theories? The mafia, Charles Manson. I'm I really reading this crazy talk. She's in a bad place that's it, only Mariah can sort herself out. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 17:51)

Eternal 12 (108,876) by TJ from Norway Do you guys think Mariah and Chris Jenner have been to the same plastic surgeon? They have some similarities in their faces at the moment. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 14:42)

Theory (108,875) by Shezz from Pk Plausible. And that would explain a lot. There clearly is a major piece of the puzzle missing. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 12:41) this is a reply to message 108,874

Theory (108,874) by Lambi from USA I mean they did try to Britney Spear her. There was a part in her book (page 262) where she talks about Morgan had arranged a "spa" visit but it was actually a hardcore detox and rehab center. They administered her heavy, hard narcotics. Mariah said it made her sluggish, puffy and compliant. I believe this was them inducing mental illness to her. The book "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" reveals the MK ultra program, where they can give you mental illness via hard drugs. You'll have no choice but to be dependent on it, then you'll just be drugged to oblivion forever. I also vividly remember Mariah saying, "when I first found out about my diagnosis, I refused to believe it" which she was right. She never had mental illness to begin with. She was purposely driven to exhaustion to be easily irate. Pat knew which buttons to press and knew anyone who hasn't slept in a week will understandably snap. They then used her lashing out as an opportunity to misdiagnose, with the goal of inducing mental illness, to control her with drugs her whole life. I believe the mafia's desired effects have come into full bloom now. She is undoubtedly heavily depended on it; the dosage probably heightened, I would say right after NYE, when she exposed her BPD and admitted seeking "professional" help and probably even more so now, grieving Pat's death. Taking these meds is obviously a part of her pre-show ritual because she is rather sluggish and puffy. Every concert. I will categorize my assessment to be "allegedly" though, just to be marked safe. It's what I think make sense after recognizing what they've done to other pop stars and doing a deep dive in the history of Hollywood. I wouldn't say anyone is threatening her necessarily but I will say Mariah is aware of the patterns of their financial terrorism. So many have tried to come for her money. Right now Morgan (which is not to be trusted) is suing the crap out of her over her memoir. I think she is always working hard to afford top-notched lawyers, it really does take money to win cases. There's also a chance Morgan may be backed up again by the mafia. He was already in cahoots with the record company during Mariah's first breakdown and considering how many mainstream publications picked up this case. (People, The NY Times, Daily Mail, Today, Fox News, The Sun, Page Six etc.) A PR firm that's verifiably against Mariah is blasting these articles to the masses. I have read the filings and Morgan is relentless for her money. He is very technical and somehow found a way to forward this case into trial. Mariah will actually have swear under oath pretty soon. That and she's probably preparing to have more than enough sufficient funds for her biopic. Production and talent fees are expensive. It's maybe why she's working herself to the bone. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 11:21)

Theory (108,874) by Lambi from USA I mean they did try to Britney Spear her. There was a part in her book (page 262) where she talks about Morgan had arranged a "spa" visit but it was actually a hardcore detox and rehab center. They administered her heavy, hard narcotics. Mariah said it made her sluggish, puffy and compliant. I believe this was them inducing mental illness to her. The book "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" reveals the MK ultra program, where they can give you mental illness via hard drugs. You'll have no choice but to be dependent on it, then you'll just be drugged to oblivion forever. I also vividly remember Mariah saying, "when I first found out about my diagnosis, I refused to believe it" which she was right. She never had mental illness to begin with. She was purposely driven to exhaustion to be easily irate. Pat knew which buttons to press and knew anyone who hasn't slept in a week will understandably snap. They then used her lashing out as an opportunity to misdiagnose, with the goal of inducing mental illness, to control her with drugs her whole life. I believe the mafia's desired effects have come into full bloom now. She is undoubtedly heavily depended on it; the dosage probably heightened, I would say right after NYE, when she exposed her BPD and admitted seeking "professional" help and probably even more so now, grieving Pat's death. Taking these meds is obviously a part of her pre-show ritual because she is rather sluggish and puffy. Every concert. I will categorize my assessment to be "allegedly" though, just to be marked safe. It's what I think make sense after recognizing what they've done to other pop stars and doing a deep dive in the history of Hollywood. I wouldn't say anyone is threatening her necessarily but I will say Mariah is aware of the patterns of their financial terrorism. So many have tried to come for her money. Right now Morgan (which is not to be trusted) is suing the crap out of her over her memoir. I think she is always working hard to afford top-notched lawyers, it really does take money to win cases. There's also a chance Morgan may be backed up again by the mafia. He was already in cahoots with the record company during Mariah's first breakdown and considering how many mainstream publications picked up this case. (People, The NY Times, Daily Mail, Today, Fox News, The Sun, Page Six etc.) A PR firm that's verifiably against Mariah is blasting these articles to the masses. I have read the filings and Morgan is relentless for her money. He is very technical and somehow found a way to forward this case into trial. Mariah will actually have swear under oath pretty soon. That and she's probably preparing to have more than enough sufficient funds for her biopic. Production and talent fees are expensive. It's maybe why she's working herself to the bone. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 11:21) this is a reply to message 108,870

Theory (108,870) by Sasha from Nomansland I came across a video of Mariah and Trey in which they are singing I'll Be There and Mariah forget to lipsynch and seems in a daze. It made me think of Britney Spears and her conservatorship. She was forced to perform at Las Vegas for years against her will. Do you think Mariah could be in the same kind of situation? Maybe she owes lots of money to someone or maybe she's under threat and has no choice. That could explain her strange behavior on stage and interview, why she looks so miserable and the fact she hasn't release anything for years. Could be the only way she found to call for help. (Monday 26 May 2025; 19:51)

Europe (108,873) by TJ from Norway Capri, Sorrento, Amalfi and Positano. Lovely places to visit. Capri is expensive, so start saving money. I just love the scenery in Italy. Have fun. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 09:29) this is a reply to message 108,869

Europe (108,869) by Bobby A from United States Okay. I am planning my first trip to Europe in 2026. I know I want visit Capri where MC recorded some tracks from Charmbraclet. (Monday 26 May 2025; 18:54)

One Heart, One Voice (108,872) by Shezz from Pk I have high hopes for this collaboration. I wonder if they all actually got in the studio together for this. Doubtful at this point but possible. I wonder how much input Mariah had if any. I expect it to be a full blown classic Barbra ballad. Wow another whole month to wait for this. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 06:58) this is a reply to message 108,862

One Heart, One Voice (108,862) by Edward from USA "One Heart, One Voice" will be released on June 27. What do guys think it will be like? Could Walter and Mariah bring their magic back with a decent well written song? Will their voices blend in together well? Thoughts. (Monday 26 May 2025; 03:37)

Mariah's voice (108,871) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I haven't written on this board lately, been some months. I have been in the top 20 as of messages throughout the last few years. Maybe I wrote a couple of messages at the start of the years, but after that, months. I am as most of you, devestated about the current condition of our girl, Mariah. She can't sing, she can't move, she can't show an emotion. It's clearly to almost all uf us, Mariah is in a bad state, and I think it's mentally and emotionally. Deep down, we all know that if Mariah gets in a happy place again, her voice will also follow, and we can have a few great moments again. The thing is, I have more agility and range in my voice than Mariah at the moment, and I'm a 41 years old man who has never tried singing as a career. I wish Mariah well, and all the help she needs. Let's stay positive now, folks? Love you, Mariah (Monday 26 May 2025; 22:27)

Theory (108,870) by Sasha from Nomansland I came across a video of Mariah and Trey in which they are singing I'll Be There and Mariah forget to lipsynch and seems in a daze. It made me think of Britney Spears and her conservatorship. She was forced to perform at Las Vegas for years against her will. Do you think Mariah could be in the same kind of situation? Maybe she owes lots of money to someone or maybe she's under threat and has no choice. That could explain her strange behavior on stage and interview, why she looks so miserable and the fact she hasn't release anything for years. Could be the only way she found to call for help. (Monday 26 May 2025; 19:51)

Europe (108,869) by Bobby A from United States Okay. I am planning my first trip to Europe in 2026. I know I want visit Capri where MC recorded some tracks from Charmbraclet. (Monday 26 May 2025; 18:54) this is a reply to message 108,868

One Heart, One Voice (108,868) by Edward from USA I've always thought Walter was the guy on "Whenever You Call". Bobby A, please don't tell me he's not the guy on "The Beautiful Ones". If he isn't, I'll be totally devastated. I think I need help. Help me. Is that the police? Whitney said loud and clear that crack was wack, just in case. (Monday 26 May 2025; 17:18)

One Heart, One Voice (108,868) by Edward from USA I've always thought Walter was the guy on "Whenever You Call". Bobby A, please don't tell me he's not the guy on "The Beautiful Ones". If he isn't, I'll be totally devastated. I think I need help. Help me. Is that the police? Whitney said loud and clear that crack was wack, just in case. (Monday 26 May 2025; 17:18) this is a reply to message 108,867

One Heart, One Voice (108,867) by Bobby A from United States Edward, that was Mystikal and Master P. Walter A is not singer nor a rapper. Lol. He is only a producer, arranger, and songwriter. Are you still trying to recover from her Aussie interview? One Heart One Voice is just Barbara [sic], Mariah, and Ariana. MC described their collaboration on X as grandoise. (Monday 26 May 2025; 14:43)

One Heart, One Voice (108,867) by Bobby A from United States Edward, that was Mystikal and Master P. Walter A is not singer nor a rapper. Lol. He is only a producer, arranger, and songwriter. Are you still trying to recover from her Aussie interview? One Heart One Voice is just Barbara [sic], Mariah, and Ariana. MC described their collaboration on X as grandoise. (Monday 26 May 2025; 14:43) this is a reply to message 108,865

One Heart, One Voice (108,865) by Edward from USA I thought he did sing. Now I'm confused. I though he was the rapper on "Did I Do That". Who is she singing "One Heart, One Voice" with then? (Monday 26 May 2025; 13:24)

One Heart, One Voice (108,866) by Edward from USA TJ, you're supposed to be my friend. I'm not talking to you for the rest of week. (Monday 26 May 2025; 13:27) this is a reply to message 108,864

One Heart, One Voice (108,864) by TJ from Norway Hahaha. (Monday 26 May 2025; 12:18)

One Heart, One Voice (108,865) by Edward from USA I thought he did sing. Now I'm confused. I though he was the rapper on "Did I Do That". Who is she singing "One Heart, One Voice" with then? (Monday 26 May 2025; 13:24) this is a reply to message 108,863

One Heart, One Voice (108,863) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands I don't think Walter sings, so I have no idea if their voices blend in together well. (Monday 26 May 2025; 09:49)

One Heart, One Voice (108,864) by TJ from Norway Hahaha. (Monday 26 May 2025; 12:18) this is a reply to message 108,863

One Heart, One Voice (108,863) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands I don't think Walter sings, so I have no idea if their voices blend in together well. (Monday 26 May 2025; 09:49)

One Heart, One Voice (108,863) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands I don't think Walter sings, so I have no idea if their voices blend in together well. (Monday 26 May 2025; 09:49) this is a reply to message 108,862

One Heart, One Voice (108,862) by Edward from USA "One Heart, One Voice" will be released on June 27. What do guys think it will be like? Could Walter and Mariah bring their magic back with a decent well written song? Will their voices blend in together well? Thoughts. (Monday 26 May 2025; 03:37)

One Heart, One Voice (108,862) by Edward from USA "One Heart, One Voice" will be released on June 27. What do guys think it will be like? Could Walter and Mariah bring their magic back with a decent well written song? Will their voices blend in together well? Thoughts. (Monday 26 May 2025; 03:37)

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