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Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,480) by Bobby A from United States Which part can I see Jamie in? There are like 5 parts on YouTube. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 12:50) this is a reply to message 103,473

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,473) by Andrew from the UK E=MC2 is a much better record than The Emancipation of Mimi. It's one of Mariah's best. You should also check out The Friday Night Project on YouTube. Mariah looks amazing. So does Jamie, actually. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:02)

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,479) by Jamie from UK Hahaha. That was such a fun day and Mariah looked amazing. Literally shook when she said my name. I love E=MC2 more than Emancipation such a great album. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 10:48) this is a reply to message 103,473

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,473) by Andrew from the UK E=MC2 is a much better record than The Emancipation of Mimi. It's one of Mariah's best. You should also check out The Friday Night Project on YouTube. Mariah looks amazing. So does Jamie, actually. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:02)

MB30 - reflections (103,478) by Bill from the UK Now some time has passed, here are my thoughts. Disc 1: I've always loved the album, and never understood the group of fans that dismissed it. It's beautifully sung, expertly recorded, it showed more nuances to her voice than before, and her "pen game" as you kids call it these days for some reason, was superb. A 23 year-old writing Anytime You Need a Friend, Never Forget You, Hero, Dreamlover, Everything Fades Away? Wow. Speaking of Everything Fades Away, it was pleasing Mariah included this on the 'original' album. I know over the years each side of the pond has stated their case for the better finish to the album. Perhaps we can agree that All I've Ever Wanted is a gorgeous finale and send off, whereas Everything Fades Away is the hauntingly beautiful epilogue? Looking at this site's discography, more versions of the album included it than didn't, and it seems like Mariah herself views it as the true ending to the album. Disc 2: Okay wow. It's strange how on The Rarities, All I Live For was just, there. It was a pleasant little bop, but I was like "yeah, I get why it was left off." How is the extended version like a thousand times better? Honestly it elevates the song to a whole new level, and her vocals are astonishing. Great to see Luther added, as I always viewed Endless Love as part of the Music Box era, and was surprised the album never got re-issued to include it after it did so well. Workin' Hard and My Prayer I can't keep away from. I adore them. I am so sad they were locked up in the vault for 30 years, but look at them now having their day in the sun. The TOTP performances and remixes I am happy with, especially as the two full-length 10-minute epic and iconic club mixes were included. The only small hang up I have is with Hero (2009 Version). Firstly, it was recorded in 2008, so let's get that out the way. Second, I think I would have preferred the Spanish version to be included as it was 'of the time', whereas this was a good stretch afterwards, so it feels somewhat out of place. Everything else is from the period (save the two new mixes). I detested the re-recording when it came out to promote The Ballads, but as I have mellowed I see it was what it was. It's fine now, I'm at peace with it, but yeh. It's the only point where I pause briefly. Disc 3: We all love Proctor's Theatre don't we. What a concert. For many of us, the first one we saw. I also had two worn out VHS in my time, and then switched to the DVD when that was issued. It is my go-to 'comfort' concert. Whenever I've had a bad day and I need lifting up, or I'm perturbed by the world and all what's going on, I watch it. It takes me back to childhood, the wonder that was early Mariah, the nostalgia I wallow in, the happy memories it invokes. Like a few of you, every move, hand gesture, giggle, is committed to memory. Having it on audio is so, so good. General: Again, I never had an issue with the original cover. It was a bit botched on the cassette version as she was half a head, but the CD always looked beautiful. It gave a Marilyn Monroe vibe, and had a certain simplicity to it. The uncropped version is equally as nice though. If anyone's gone into panic mode over the physical release having a big border around the original cover, this is a slip case that will reveal the uncropped cover beneath it. But thank you Mariah, for everything. 10/10. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 10:08)

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,477) by MusicfanJ from Germany No. TEOM was a hit, but Daydream was huge. Just think of Fantasy, One Sweet Day and ABMB alone. The years 95 to 96 were on another level than 2005. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 09:53) this is a reply to message 103,471

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,471) by Bobby A from United States Isn't it really TEOM? WBT skyrocketed album sales to 5 million. WBT will always be her biggest radio airplay hit. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 00:28)

Since we're wondering (103,476) by Bill from the UK Yes, the physical formats are not due until February 2024. I suppose they will take the pre-orders and then ascertain how many to manufacture. If anyone ordered through MC's store, you can cancel and re-order through Amazon where you get free shipping if you have Prime. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 09:53) this is a reply to message 103,470

Since we're wondering (103,470) by Brad from USA Has anyone decoded the "coat of arms" on the windows Mariah shows in her latest ""Dreamlover" tribute post where she is wearing the black and white flannel shirt? I think this is all very intentional on her part. It's a clue as to where she is (obviously) and what she is up to. I know September 15th will lend some insight too at MSG. I think it's a clue just like pointing to that poster of "I'm gonna need a bigger boat" from back around her birthday. Also, do we have to wait until 2024 for the physical forms of MB30 to be available, I read that somewhere. Thanks. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 22:54)

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,475) by Stacey from USA I always felt like TEOM was Daydream, part 2. She went back to those formulas that worked so well on Daydream and used them again on TEOM. She wrote crossover hits that could be played on Pop/Adult Contemporary stations as well as hip/hop R&B stations. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love TEOM because it reminded me of Daydream. After CB, I thought the light airy whisper was her new direction and I was a bit sad. I miss that strong middle of the road full voice vocal. She went back to what made her so successful in the 1990s, the voice. Remember the theme to TEOM? The return of the voice. Daydream oozes perfection. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 07:43) this is a reply to message 103,471

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,471) by Bobby A from United States Isn't it really TEOM? WBT skyrocketed album sales to 5 million. WBT will always be her biggest radio airplay hit. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 00:28)

All I Live For (103,474) by Andrew from the UK Apologies if this has already been discussed and deliberated but it's driving me a little insane: "No I would never play around" in the extended version sounds like The Rarities vocal with the word "around" different as if Mariah has taken the Rarities version and spliced it at that point. The extended version goes up on the word around and it doesn't flow like a phrase. I'm very confused: did Mariah condense the extended version to make a short version for The Rarities or - I'm a bit lost as to what I am hearing and what the differences are. Has anyone got this? (Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:17)

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,473) by Andrew from the UK E=MC2 is a much better record than The Emancipation of Mimi. It's one of Mariah's best. You should also check out The Friday Night Project on YouTube. Mariah looks amazing. So does Jamie, actually. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 06:02) this is a reply to message 103,469

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,469) by jaker20 from US Some say it's Music Box, Butterfly, TEOM, and some even say it's Caution or Merry Christmas, but that's only because she has so many. But Daydream is really where she hit the pinnacle, when she got the most Grammy noms, and hit her 11th no.1. She could have said it's a wrap (no pun) at that point, but she went on and on and gave The Beatles a run for their money. But Daydream is what I would call a perfect pop album, start to finish. You can sense a longing for more maturity here before she went full blow emancipated in Butterfly, the writing is some of her best, and the melodies are classics. "Fantasy" is a just a perfect pop song and best example of sampling. It is so good that even the remixes are top notch bops and its stands out a rework such as BE. It even works so well as a film score in multiple variations because it just have so many facets. Rolling Stone putting at no.400 in their 500 greatest songs of all time is just criminal because I can't think of a more perfect pop song. Oh and the rest of the album slays too. Classics each one of them. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 20:38)

Since we're wondering (103,472) by Bobby A from United States Unfortunately, February 24, 2024 is the release date for all retailers and her store. I wouldn't be surprised if Wal-Mart and Target have on their websites this Fall for pre-order some type of exclusive colored vinyl. She did it for Mariah Carey and MTV Unplugged. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 01:45) this is a reply to message 103,470

Since we're wondering (103,470) by Brad from USA Has anyone decoded the "coat of arms" on the windows Mariah shows in her latest ""Dreamlover" tribute post where she is wearing the black and white flannel shirt? I think this is all very intentional on her part. It's a clue as to where she is (obviously) and what she is up to. I know September 15th will lend some insight too at MSG. I think it's a clue just like pointing to that poster of "I'm gonna need a bigger boat" from back around her birthday. Also, do we have to wait until 2024 for the physical forms of MB30 to be available, I read that somewhere. Thanks. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 22:54)

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,471) by Bobby A from United States Isn't it really TEOM? WBT skyrocketed album sales to 5 million. WBT will always be her biggest radio airplay hit. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 00:28) this is a reply to message 103,469

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,469) by jaker20 from US Some say it's Music Box, Butterfly, TEOM, and some even say it's Caution or Merry Christmas, but that's only because she has so many. But Daydream is really where she hit the pinnacle, when she got the most Grammy noms, and hit her 11th no.1. She could have said it's a wrap (no pun) at that point, but she went on and on and gave The Beatles a run for their money. But Daydream is what I would call a perfect pop album, start to finish. You can sense a longing for more maturity here before she went full blow emancipated in Butterfly, the writing is some of her best, and the melodies are classics. "Fantasy" is a just a perfect pop song and best example of sampling. It is so good that even the remixes are top notch bops and its stands out a rework such as BE. It even works so well as a film score in multiple variations because it just have so many facets. Rolling Stone putting at no.400 in their 500 greatest songs of all time is just criminal because I can't think of a more perfect pop song. Oh and the rest of the album slays too. Classics each one of them. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 20:38)

Since we're wondering (103,470) by Brad from USA Has anyone decoded the "coat of arms" on the windows Mariah shows in her latest ""Dreamlover" tribute post where she is wearing the black and white flannel shirt? I think this is all very intentional on her part. It's a clue as to where she is (obviously) and what she is up to. I know September 15th will lend some insight too at MSG. I think it's a clue just like pointing to that poster of "I'm gonna need a bigger boat" from back around her birthday. Also, do we have to wait until 2024 for the physical forms of MB30 to be available, I read that somewhere. Thanks. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 22:54)

Daydream is Mariah's magnum opus (103,469) by jaker20 from US Some say it's Music Box, Butterfly, TEOM, and some even say it's Caution or Merry Christmas, but that's only because she has so many. But Daydream is really where she hit the pinnacle, when she got the most Grammy noms, and hit her 11th no.1. She could have said it's a wrap (no pun) at that point, but she went on and on and gave The Beatles a run for their money. But Daydream is what I would call a perfect pop album, start to finish. You can sense a longing for more maturity here before she went full blow emancipated in Butterfly, the writing is some of her best, and the melodies are classics. "Fantasy" is a just a perfect pop song and best example of sampling. It is so good that even the remixes are top notch bops and its stands out a rework such as BE. It even works so well as a film score in multiple variations because it just have so many facets. Rolling Stone putting at no.400 in their 500 greatest songs of all time is just criminal because I can't think of a more perfect pop song. Oh and the rest of the album slays too. Classics each one of them. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 20:38)

Mariah shares photo "homage" to Dreamlover video (103,468) by jaker20 from US Mama looking gorgeous and fresh and happy. Honestly she won the genetic lottery she's always been one of the most gorgeous of them all, and with that talent. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 20:22)

MB30 (103,467) by Andrew from the UK Ja, stimmt. Music Box *made* Mariah an international superstar. Global artist. With Daydream she became a global artist. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 17:35) this is a reply to message 103,465

MB30 (103,465) by MusicfanJ from Germany Except of Daydream. There was Mariah mania all over the globe. I will never forget. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 11:39)

MB30 (103,466) by Edward from USA While Daydream and Music Box were both certified Diamond two and three years after their releases respectively, the former scored another platinum certification in 2022. Music Box sold more worldwide, but Daydream has sold more here in the US. The expectation with Daydream after Music Box were very high and she delivered. So, I think there was Mariah Mania worldwide from Music Box until Butterfly. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 17:27) this is a reply to message 103,465

MB30 (103,465) by MusicfanJ from Germany Except of Daydream. There was Mariah mania all over the globe. I will never forget. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 11:39)

MB30 (103,465) by MusicfanJ from Germany Except of Daydream. There was Mariah mania all over the globe. I will never forget. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 11:39) this is a reply to message 103,457

MB30 (103,457) by Nick G from Germany All albums after MB were just an echo that became quieter with each album. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 14:41)

Taking care of herself (103,464) by Shezz from Pk Totally loving this MB30 era and a happier looking MC. Her instagram pics were beautiful. Is it just me or does she tend to dress less provocatively each time she loses weight and gets fitter? It's not that the clothes fit her better, her choice of fashion changes. The "girls" are no longer front and center. The E=MC2 era like Andrew mentioned was one of her best. She was the fittest she had ever been. She could have shown off her body much more than she did if she wanted to. I remember her regularly being layered in chic short jackets. The clothes were fitting, revealing her toned figure but the girls were hardly in focus. Each time she gains some weight the girls pop out (pun not intended) - I'm assuming they make her feel more attractive? (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 05:00) this is a reply to message 103,463

Taking care of herself (103,463) by Tevin from USA I just saw her homage to Dreamlover post. Mariah looks stunning. I love the laid back natural look. Mariah if you're reading this board, please keep this look. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 00:55)

Taking care of herself (103,463) by Tevin from USA I just saw her homage to Dreamlover post. Mariah looks stunning. I love the laid back natural look. Mariah if you're reading this board, please keep this look. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 00:55) this is a reply to message 103,443

Taking care of herself (103,443) by Jamie from UK Wow Mariah is looking in great shape, from her recent Instagram post. She really seems in a good place right now and taking care of herself. Let’s hope that with the added confidence of looking her best she starts to focus on giving us some new music and working on those vocals. Maybe reliving the [Music Box] era has given her the push she needed to remember how great she was. (Monday 11 September 2023; 23:05)

Crybaby (103,462) by Bobby A from United States Andrew, I just want Mimi to sing and write again like she did when she took out that Casio keyboard and wrote the biggest song of her career. I know she is capable of it. I just wish Kuk Harrell would get the contract to help MC get her voice. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 00:35) this is a reply to message 103,460

Crybaby (103,460) by Andrew from the UK Bobby A: I will agree with you to any degree, on any subject, for a whole ten minutes, if you stop pretending Mariah can climb a building like Batgirl. And give her her bloody head back. She's pretty good looking, y'know. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 22:14)

Ben Margulies (103,461) by Bobby A from United States The Music Box 30th anniversary has stirred up in me a lot reminiscing about MC's remarkable career. I am wondering how a 2023 Ben Margulies collaboration would sound today. I am hoping there are some more Ben collaborations in the vault. He is in the same class of producers and songwriters that MC never worked with again after her debut - Ric Wake, Rhett Lawrence and Narada Michael Walden. (Wednesday 13 September 2023; 00:26)

Crybaby (103,460) by Andrew from the UK Bobby A: I will agree with you to any degree, on any subject, for a whole ten minutes, if you stop pretending Mariah can climb a building like Batgirl. And give her her bloody head back. She's pretty good looking, y'know. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 22:14) this is a reply to message 103,450

Crybaby (103,450) by Bobby A from United States Crybaby was genius Mariah at her best. It has elements of hip hop, R&B, New Jack, and jazz all in one song. What other contemporary female artist has done that multiple times over. She doesn't receive enough credit for being a damn good songwriter. Her vocal acrobats and diva persona cause her songwriting skills to take a back seat sometimes. Timmy Gatling's creative differences with Aaron Hall of Guy brought me here because MC had the same creative differences.with Sony over Crybaby's release. It's ironic that one of the songwriters had creative differences over Piece Of Love that Crybaby samples. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 05:31)

MB30 (103,459) by Andrew from the UK Something I will offer then that I think almost every disagrees with: Mariah genuinely needs to lose weight. Her confidence levels and her behaviour seems directly linked to her size, if not completely then, definitely, in part. Mariah on The Friday Night Project was fiercely hot, funny, articulate, interesting, fun. And the vocals of that era were pretty good as was the music. (I absolutely love the E=MC2 album and era in general.) I think if Mariah committed to working on her fitness, working on her voice preservation, and letting go of trying to look perfectly positioned everywhere every second of the day, she would reconnect with her greatness. Jamie, FYI: The Friday Night Project was a TV show Mariah hosted. You should check it out. It's really good. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 22:09) this is a reply to message 103,446

MB30 (103,446) by Jamie from UK Well said Andrew I totally agree, she loved those times otherwise she wouldn't be paying them any attention. She was there present at the time and without any effort she looked comfortable and enjoying herself. Nothing is perfect and there were times she wasn't happy but on the whole I'm certain she misses those times. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 01:48)

MB30 (103,458) by Andrew from the UK I could talk endlessly about Mariah Carey eras. This is why fan meets ups would've been fun. The best thing about reliving Music Box and living a new Music Box is that we know where the music went, what came next. I liked Emotions which I went to after Music Box but it felt very much like going backwards musically: becoming more old-fashioned. Listening to the Eponymous album after those was just a step to far in the Eighties and to a musical style that now seems very Kindergarten compared to how sophisticated the writing and production became. I just can't with the Mariah Carey album. And the less said about the cover the better. In saying that: does anyone look at the new zoomed-out cover for the 30th Anniversary Music Box and get the feeling that those facial features have been interposed onto a different photo? It doesn't look like thats where they should be on... her head. Maybe it's just me. It beats the shite out of the Rainbow cover. That belongs in the vault, sealed in concrete. I will offer original Music Box a lifeline: Just To Hold You Once Again, whilst not the most exciting of songs gives me chills from "To something so far gone, oh where did I go wrong? Even though..." It is a brilliant vocal. I'm honestly surprised more people are not as ecstatically pleased with this Music Box 30 era as I feel I am. It's normally the other way around. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 22:02) this is a reply to message 103,454

MB30 (103,454) by MusicfanJ from Germany I completely agree with you Jamie and Andrew. That time was so special, and that she did write and produce the songs on Music Box was the best thing to do. Andrew wrote Music Box is like a blockbuster, I love the comparison. It's true, it's her blockbuster. The album that changed everything. Mariah knows it and hasn't forget it. She was simply genius, the whole production and team on point. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 10:30)

MB30 (103,457) by Nick G from Germany All albums after MB were just an echo that became quieter with each album. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 14:41) this is a reply to message 103,454

MB30 (103,454) by MusicfanJ from Germany I completely agree with you Jamie and Andrew. That time was so special, and that she did write and produce the songs on Music Box was the best thing to do. Andrew wrote Music Box is like a blockbuster, I love the comparison. It's true, it's her blockbuster. The album that changed everything. Mariah knows it and hasn't forget it. She was simply genius, the whole production and team on point. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 10:30)

MB30 just for the nostalgia (103,456) by T from USA This anniversary is kind of bittersweet. It's a great time for the fans but it's also so sad. It harkens back to time and place in many of our lives where Mariah was at the top of the mountain, where her voice sounded like a literal angel and her beauty was natural and unmatched. Her latest Instagram post as an homage to Dreamlover was the hardest pill to swallow yet as it showed us a glimpse of what could've been with Mariah all these years. The absolute natural beauty. If only she was comfortable in her own skin, if only she didn't deal with mental health issues, if only her first husband wasn't such a control freak, if only she could've lived happily ever after. Maybe this picture would be what Mariah would've actually been like all these years instead of just a brief moment of dress up. (Tuesday 12 September 2023; 14:10)

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