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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,781) by Lighty from China

The discussion of Brenda K actually started with the video you just posted, if you scroll to the next pages of this board.
(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 17:20)


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Generation (113,780) by Lainsky from Philippines

Yep, it was Music Box that made an impact on me, which turned me into a true lamb, solidified by Butterfly and Daydream as a lamb. It was "Love Takes Time", though, that caught my attention, and the Emotions' singles.
(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 14:45)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,779) by Lainsky from Philippines

I don't know what the fuss is about Brenda K. Starr and Mariah here, so I didn't jump into the discussion. And then I came across this video and watched it.

Some comments about her are not nice, but one thing is for sure. Whether people acknowledge it or not, Brenda is instrumental in Mariah's career. And I like her too.
(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 14:40)


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Generation (113,778) by MusicfanJ from Germany

I'm a millennial so I would change it for Daydream. That album made me a fan and is way more loved by Gen Y than TEOM.

Gen X = Music Box
Millennials = Daydream/Butterfly
Gen Z = Memoirs/Caution
(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 14:16)


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Mariah leaving Gamma (113,777) by TheButterflyReturns from United States

I think it is for the best. Gamma hasn't produced much in the way of results for any of the artists it has partnered with. I didn't expect Mariah to have huge success with the album, but they definitely should have put in more effort after the "Type Dangerous" rollout.

Hopefully, Mariah can coordinate with Sony and Universal Music Group to ensure that Glitter gets a great 25th anniversary treatment and that we finally get the "Somebody's Ugly Daughter" release with Mariah's original vocals.
(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 14:03)


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Mariah leaving Gamma (113,776) by Bobby A from United States

MC seemed unhappy with Gamma earlier this year with no evidence of a real partnership that was promoted before HFIA dropped in September. MC's last straw was probably Larry Jackson saying no to releasing the HFIA deluxe. I feel like Gamma dropped the ball on Play This Song and In Your Feelings with their lack of promotion at radio and Valentine's Day TV ads. Both could have been bigger songs on the Hot 100. It is like Gamma poured all the money into the Type Dangerous video and didn't provide anymore money for other videos and promotion. We have been down this road before for the third time with another one album label.

(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 11:44)


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Mariah leaving Gamma (113,775) by Philipp from Switzerland

Nostradamus Insider posted on X (Twitter) that Mariah is leaving Gamma. Here's what they posted: "According to rumors, Mariah Carey is entering into an alliance with an important label in charge of distributing her material but she's retaining the rights to her art. The announcement must arrive prior to her next release. Glitter/SUD will be released under MARIAH. According to my sources, a Sony executive, Sylvia Rhone, has been in recent talks with Mariah Carey. Both have had several meetings recently. Also, Imran Majid, Island Records CEO, has had meetings with Carey and in fact, he has started following her recently."
(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 09:19)

Generation (113,774) by Tevin from USA

So I was thinking about the impact that Mariah's albums have had with the GP throughout her career. I know we all love list here lol, so here is my list of non Christmas albums that I think had the biggest success with each generation.

Gen X = Music Box
Millennials = TEOM
Gen Z = Memoirs

Across all Generations = Daydream (ABMB and Fantasy) still sound fresh and are on constant rotation even today. What do you all think? Would you change anything on this list?

Also, I still find it interesting (although I love the album) that Memoirs seemed to be loved by the younger GP rather than many of Mariah's veteran fans.
(Tuesday 5 May 2026; 17:07)

Should MC release a part two album (113,773) by Lainsky from Philippines

It's a good idea, and if ever she does it, I hope the new release will bring the new and old fans to buy the first ones, make them chart, including their favorite singles from each album.
(Tuesday 5 May 2026; 11:00)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,772) by Bobby A from United States

I think it has been all fun for her being in MC's "world" for a minute. I pretend all the time that was Twista in studio when MC recorded My One and Only. I bet Twista was in awe with MC during that recording night.

(Tuesday 5 May 2026; 00:11)


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Should MC release a part two album (113,771) by Bobby A from United States

I think MC's next album should be a part two to one of her biggest selling or Lambs' favorite albums from 2005-2018. I would love a Memoirs or Caution part two. The public excitement might be what MC's career needs to take the world back in time when her music made people say hmmm. I think Memoirs: The Final Chapter has a nice sound to it.

(Monday 4 May 2026; 23:49)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,770) by Lambi from USA

Page 128: "In the beginning, Tommy protected me. He shielded me from all the people who thought I owed them something or who wanted to use me." I would not be shocked if this is why Brenda was dropped from Sony in such a cutthroat way.

It's also interesting that, on the very next pages, Mariah elaborates on how she found the perfect house for her mom, how she handpicked every detail because she knew what her mom liked, and how hugely important it was to her to finally find some stability for her family. After reading it, it makes Brenda's request for a house all the more absurd.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 21:17)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,769) by Stacey from USA

Thumbs up for you too. Bill's list should be in the burn book too.

(Monday 4 May 2026; 18:58)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,768) by Stacey from USA

I wish I could give you more than one "thumbs up".

(Monday 4 May 2026; 18:58)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,767) by Edward from USA

That's funny. It should definitely be on the first page of the "Burn Book".

(Monday 4 May 2026; 14:11)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,766) by TheButterflyReturns from United States

I agree. Brenda and Arthur Baker both come across like they have chips on their shoulders in that interview. Arthur is probably jealous that Mariah went with Tommy Mottola and Sony and worked with producers other than him. Both were seeming to imply that Mariah made up portions of her "being discovered" story, but I question their motivations.

It was unrealistic for Brenda to expect so many favors from Mariah simply because Brenda was helpful to her in getting signed. Brenda was Mariah's employer, so their relationship was primarily a professional one. A former employer typically shouldn't be expecting an employee to help them out after the contractual obligations are fulfilled. Mariah has never portrayed that relationship as super close personal relationship in the manner that Brenda has, and I think there's a reason for that. Watching that interview, I also noticed that Brenda gets song titles from Mariah's first album and demo wrong - so I am not sure I completely trust her version of events.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 12:55)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,765) by Lambi from USA

You're actually correct, I don't work for Gamma. I went there solely for contacts and now work in tech for a touring agency. We're not supposed to speak negatively about artists. This is kind of incognito though, but you never know.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 06:45)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,764) by Belinda Vasquez from USA

Please stop acting like you work for Gramma. You don't.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 03:48)


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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,763) by Lambi from USA

Turns out I'm wrong. She called up TMZ to set the record straight. She does this every time to clap back. (Example: JLO: "She's forgetful I guess." Hoodriah: "I still don't know her.")

Peep the interviewers who was prompted to say: "You're a legend, you deserve everything." She just posted Underneath The Stars as well to remind everyone how phenomenal her songwriting is.

We know snubs make the headlines and we also know Mariah's will be extra sensationalized because she is actually a legend. But now I'm kind of convinced there is an effort to defame her just from the way PR reacted and handled it. I was genuinely surprised she actually took the time to do all that when there's literally so much cooking right now.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:47)


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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,762) by Bobby A from United States

I feel MC is about to make us smile again with a rumored duet on Ariana's Petal album. The-Dream is back too this summer with a new album.

(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:40)


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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,761) by Lambi from USA

This is all in jest so I'm safe from my NDA. I'm forever cackling at:

9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket
30. Avoiding wrinkles (courtesy of me)

Keep it going.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:23)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,760) by Lambi from USA

She does this now because she's read her book. It's the same as Miley Cyrus suddenly flip flopping from, "That's part of her shtick, I can see through that. It's about Mimi. It's about her" to "This is too iconic. I could've missed the award, that's fine, but not Mariah Carey."

They realize Mariah has lived an extremely troubled life ever since childhood. They know she's a survivor and is a genuinely good person. Their beefs are insignificant compared to all the bigger fish she's been frying.

I would actually respect Brenda if she had just said, "You know, maybe I did push it a bit too much. Maybe I asked for too much favor when she hadn't even reached stardom yet. I was a mother at 19, eventually single, and was scared shitless about the future of my son. I needed security and subconsciously tried to get the most out of Mariah. I want to apologize to her if I made her feel like she owed me her career."

That would ring absolutely true to me. But she chooses to go on a virtue signaling ramble. People can actually understand and handle the truth, just say it. We will get it. We've all been teenagers in survival mode. She's matured now, brain fully developed so it's totally okay to take accountability on mistakes you made when you were young.

I don't doubt Mariah's friendship meant something, but I do know it's perpetually distanced for a reason. MC has great pattern recognition about these type of people. She intuitively just knows.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 12:26)


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Article: Mariah Carey makes it into greatest songwriters list (113,759) by Bill from the UK

"Your writing song ability is finally recognized."

She's already in the Songwriter's Hall of Fame sugar lump.
(Saturday 2 May 2026; 23:33)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,758) by Bill from the UK

That's an odd take. Personally, I thought what Mariah said to Brenda was pretty cold. Brenda seemed quite genuine and caring for Mariah, and still roots for her now. She seemed sincerely heartbroken over losing Mariah's friendship several times. I'm glad she's happy, is healthy, is still making music, and is content and settled. And I thank her for opening the door for Mariah to enter into all of our lives and bring us the joy and happiness she has over all these years.
(Saturday 2 May 2026; 23:01)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,757) by Lambi from USA

MC saying "What do you want me to do? Be indebted to you for the rest of my life?" is accurate. Like I said Mariah is smart. Brenda introducing an ultimatum was weird. "If I get you a record deal, you're gonna buy me my first house, right?" Then making her sign it, "I Mariah Carey will buy Brenda a house if I get famous" she's framing it in jest now but you don't formalize a "joke" with a written agreement unless you're hoping it holds weight later. It's so deeply manipulative.

She's another Morgan, "There wouldn't be a Mariah Carey if it wasn't for me." They're those type of people who help because they know there's a big trade. None of it was ever really from the heart because the entitlement to Mariah's wealth thereafter is ridiculous.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 23:02)


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