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Finally watched the Alan Carr podcast (110,529)
by Lighty from China
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And I have to say it's really painful to watch Mariah's interviews these days. She seems very reluctant to answer most of the questions and all she had been doing was to repeat what the interviewer had just said, not only Alan, but all the interviewers from last year until now. She looks uncomfortable, uninterested, tired and dull. Sometimes she laughs awkwardly as if she doesn't understand what the interviewer is talking about, or maybe she's using the laughs to cover the awkwardness, but only made things worse.
This low energy is not only seen in the interviews, but also in the songs. Her first verse in Sugar Sweet, especially the "I'm gonna take my time, my nails, hair, new perfume" lines, doesn't sound like she's even remotely excited to "open up the door" and meet this guy. It feels like she was just obliged to finish singing the lyrics, and that's all. While the two featured artists in the song sound way more sincere, or to say the least, they fit better to the lyrics and the song than Mariah does.
I still remember vividly watching Mariah going on Alan's Chatty Man to promote the Memoirs album in 2009. She was funny, witted, and carefree. She played flawlessly and effortlessly along with Alan's jokes and skits, the "stuff the turkey", the "champagne foams", which Mariah now says she doesn't remember, and the Eminem question, etc. Such a wonderful show to watch. Now this Mariah has all gone, I wonder where she's been to, is it really that something's seriously wrong with her mentality because of the heavy medication, or just as Alan asked jokingly in the podcast, "What? Are you dead inside?" (during the fridge magnet questions).
At least this Alan podcast is so far the best interview we have got for this period. Mariah seems to have opened up a little bit more. Hopefully she will get better and better leading to the new album. Bless.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 18:14)
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Here For It All snippet (110,528)
by Bobby A from United States
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I can hear those two songs as well, Zac. From what I hear on the snippet, HFIA has a pre-hook part where MC's buttery tone and falsetto shines before she belts "Baby, I'm here for it all." I bet the full song is fire. We should get the 3rd single after Labor Day. Maybe HFIA or the Anderson .Paak duet
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 13:28)
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Here For It All snippet (110,527)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I am hearing a bit of "I Only Wanted" from Charmbracelet and "I Am Free" from Daydream.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 12:52)
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Here For It All snippet (110,527)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I am hearing a bit of "I Only Wanted" from Charmbracelet and "I Am Free" from Daydream.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 12:52)
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Here For It All snippet (110,526)
by Bobby A from United States
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Terna, can you help me understand chord progression? You said Here For It All is very Mariahesque in melody and chord progression. AI said MC's chord progressions have a modal mixture departing from the core chords of the song's key to borrow chords from parallel mode. What does all of that mean? Can you give me one MC ballad from each her albums that has a similar chord progression to help me understand? I listened to the snippet with headphones and it is not bad at all. It reminds of MC's vocals on Heavenly (Can't Give Up Now). I think multiple radio formats would play Here For It All because it's a piano ballad similar in the vein of Adele's Easy On Me.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 04:13)
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Here For It All snippet (110,526)
by Bobby A from United States
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Terna, can you help me understand chord progression? You said Here For It All is very Mariahesque in melody and chord progression. AI said MC's chord progressions have a modal mixture departing from the core chords of the song's key to borrow chords from parallel mode. What does all of that mean? Can you give me one MC ballad from each her albums that has a similar chord progression to help me understand? I listened to the snippet with headphones and it is not bad at all. It reminds of MC's vocals on Heavenly (Can't Give Up Now). I think multiple radio formats would play Here For It All because it's a piano ballad similar in the vein of Adele's Easy On Me.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 04:13)
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Here For It All snippet (110,443)
by Terna from Nigeria
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It's a ballad and final track in the vein of "Portrait" I guess. Very Mariahesque melody and chord progression, but I don't know about that vocal at all.
(Tuesday 12 August 2025; 23:18)
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Back to chart obsession (110,525)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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While that seems plausible, Mariah did say in interviews that everyone told her to release this song since it's everyone's favorite. So that makes it look like they thought this has a chance. While I agree with Edward the song isn't bad and had Ariana released it, it would probably do a lot better, but I doubt it was supposed to be a buzz single. The album has only 10 songs, we already heard 2.5.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 03:51)
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Back to chart obsession (110,521)
by Bobby A from United States
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I believe the plan all along was for Sugar Sweet to be a promo single. Someone realized at Gamma it just wasn't going to do anything on the charts. Some AR executive said probably that afro beats was not what people wanted from Mariah Carey. They released SS anyway to launch preorders. I hope the third single is the one.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 00:57)
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I would be a completely different person (110,524)
by Bobby A from United States
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Lol. Okay, you got me there. I need to enroll back in school. That was funny. Mariah hurry up and release your album. I want my friend Zac back.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 02:45)
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I would be a completely different person (110,523)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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Wow. It's like school in summer - no class.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 02:20)
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I would be a completely different person (110,523)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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Wow. It's like school in summer - no class.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 02:20)
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I would be a completely different person (110,518)
by Bobby A from United States
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You got to have a sassy comeback for mouth shutters though.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 23:16)
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Back to chart obsession (110,522)
by Edward from USA
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I still think that if "Sugar Sweet" had been released by any current artist, it would've been a hit. It's a very catchy song. It has written Summer all over it. It could've benefited from a punchy bridge though. These days artists are kind of lazy and bridges are becoming a thing of the past. In my opinion, #Beautiful needed one too, it's always seemed too short to me.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 01:43)
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Back to chart obsession (110,516)
by jaker20 from US
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It's like clockwork in this forum. I love Doja but collabing with her just to chart is pretty desperate. She's likely to out-chart Mariah, but who cares, as long as HFIA is as good as Caution, I will be happy. If we hope for a chart position for HFIA, we will be disappointed.
When Sugar Sweet was released, reception was extremely positive. But because it didn't chart, we don't like it anymore. The quickness lambs switch on her based on chart position is sad. She's really a victim of her own success.
I love the song, love the beat, it feels like a classic. It doesn't feel out of place to her catalog like that I Don't mess. And she's collabing and she increase their profile even a little. She's in her giving era, launching careers. I hope the song has its moment someday, I'm almost thinking it being a theme for a cooking show and it explodes lol. That's how IWTKWLI is Brazil when it became a theme for a show.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 22:52)
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Back to chart obsession (110,521)
by Bobby A from United States
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I believe the plan all along was for Sugar Sweet to be a promo single. Someone realized at Gamma it just wasn't going to do anything on the charts. Some AR executive said probably that afro beats was not what people wanted from Mariah Carey. They released SS anyway to launch preorders. I hope the third single is the one.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 00:57)
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Back to chart obsession (110,516)
by jaker20 from US
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It's like clockwork in this forum. I love Doja but collabing with her just to chart is pretty desperate. She's likely to out-chart Mariah, but who cares, as long as HFIA is as good as Caution, I will be happy. If we hope for a chart position for HFIA, we will be disappointed.
When Sugar Sweet was released, reception was extremely positive. But because it didn't chart, we don't like it anymore. The quickness lambs switch on her based on chart position is sad. She's really a victim of her own success.
I love the song, love the beat, it feels like a classic. It doesn't feel out of place to her catalog like that I Don't mess. And she's collabing and she increase their profile even a little. She's in her giving era, launching careers. I hope the song has its moment someday, I'm almost thinking it being a theme for a cooking show and it explodes lol. That's how IWTKWLI is Brazil when it became a theme for a show.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 22:52)
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Doja Cat (110,520)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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While I get that but it's so clear that she never met these 2 artists before because from the "behind the scenes" video we could see they're meeting for the first time when shooting the promo clip. I would think a songwriter like Mariah would at least want to be more acquainted with whoever she chooses to collaborate with because she's so picky with who she works with. She keeps picking random artists.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 00:31)
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Doja Cat (110,515)
by T from USA
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Mariah said they were perfect for the song and she had them in mind. So that's how these two relatively unknown girls got on the song.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 19:48)
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Marketing flop (110,519)
by Lambi from USA
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Yup. They really thought they were cooking including MrBeast on the video. It's very obviously a clout move and he left it in the dust. I'm sure she had the money to be like, "3 instagram post, here's $150k." but she didn't. However, I'm lowkey glad MrBeast didn't fully associate himself with this song because it's not Mariah's best work.
This strategy was giving when Jermaine thought it was a good idea to exclusively release The Art Of Letting Go on Facebook because Mariah had 14 million followers at the time, only for that not to translate into sales at all. It flopped so badly.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 23:42)
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Doja Cat (110,510)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Agree. I heard of Kehlani by name but can't name a single song. I didn't know the other artist. I don't know why Mariah doesn't call her famous friends for collaborations because we know they pull through when she asks. Look at how many times Ariana came to support her. I was excited about the roll out of the era when TDang teasers started but I don't know what's the plan forward, are we getting a SS music video? Is that dead on arrival? She made 2 collaboration mistakes. Why get Mr Beast to feature in a video when it wasn't part of his contract to promote the song and why have Kehlani on a song where she refused to be featured as a main artist so that it doesn't show up on her Spotify page. She needs to be smarter with who she collaborates with. Heck even Taylor Swift roped in Sabrina Carpenter who's currently super popular eventhough Taylor doesn't need the added advantage.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 15:47)
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I would be a completely different person (110,518)
by Bobby A from United States
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You got to have a sassy comeback for mouth shutters though.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 23:16)
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I would be a completely different person (110,511)
by Edward from USA
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Be careful, Zachariah is a mouth shutter, he shuts people's mouth. Mariah couldn't keep singing "SS" because Kehlani and Shenseea weren't there to support her or maybe the song is very difficult to sing. There's also a possibility that Mariah couldn't hear herself. This is what I think is happening though: Mariah started defrosting too early this year.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 15:54)
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I would be a completely different person (110,517)
by Bobby A from United States
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It's interesting that she can sing during some occasions and other occassions she can't. Something inside of MC is happening when she sings. Country singer Martina McBride lost her voice in 2022 from 30 years of overuse of her voice. Sadly, I feel HFIA will be MC's last album. It has been 7 years without new music because MC can't sing her songs like she wants to with all of the riffs, runs, and belting. I want the best for MC.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 22:55)
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I would be a completely different person (110,508)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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I still remember whether in 1995 or 1996 during an international interview, Mariah said that if she didn't have the voice she would be a completely different person. So I guess the Mariah now that we have is the different Mariah from what she used to be. Having the voice back then helped her in building her confidence and her issues with insecurities. Now that she lost it, don't deny it guys, she is what she is now. She tried to sing Sugar Sweet acapella recently during one of that UK radio interviews and half way she realised that the voice didn't come out.
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Back to chart obsession (110,516)
by jaker20 from US
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It's like clockwork in this forum. I love Doja but collabing with her just to chart is pretty desperate. She's likely to out-chart Mariah, but who cares, as long as HFIA is as good as Caution, I will be happy. If we hope for a chart position for HFIA, we will be disappointed.
When Sugar Sweet was released, reception was extremely positive. But because it didn't chart, we don't like it anymore. The quickness lambs switch on her based on chart position is sad. She's really a victim of her own success.
I love the song, love the beat, it feels like a classic. It doesn't feel out of place to her catalog like that I Don't mess. And she's collabing and she increase their profile even a little. She's in her giving era, launching careers. I hope the song has its moment someday, I'm almost thinking it being a theme for a cooking show and it explodes lol. That's how IWTKWLI is Brazil when it became a theme for a show.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 22:52)
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Doja Cat (110,515)
by T from USA
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Mariah said they were perfect for the song and she had them in mind. So that's how these two relatively unknown girls got on the song.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 19:48)
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Doja Cat (110,510)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Agree. I heard of Kehlani by name but can't name a single song. I didn't know the other artist. I don't know why Mariah doesn't call her famous friends for collaborations because we know they pull through when she asks. Look at how many times Ariana came to support her. I was excited about the roll out of the era when TDang teasers started but I don't know what's the plan forward, are we getting a SS music video? Is that dead on arrival? She made 2 collaboration mistakes. Why get Mr Beast to feature in a video when it wasn't part of his contract to promote the song and why have Kehlani on a song where she refused to be featured as a main artist so that it doesn't show up on her Spotify page. She needs to be smarter with who she collaborates with. Heck even Taylor Swift roped in Sabrina Carpenter who's currently super popular eventhough Taylor doesn't need the added advantage.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 15:47)
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Special 20 votes today for MTV VMA (110,514)
by T from USA
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Today you can cast up to 20 votes for an artist in their category. We can all double Mariah's chances to finally winning a moon man if we all cast our votes today.
It's only double the votes from 1pm-2pm EST today so roughly thirty mins left to cast 20 votes for Mariah.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 19:29)
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Do you all think? (110,513)
by BFF from United States
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I agree. I think we are heading for an outcome like what we got with the "Caution" album. That album got great reviews but hardly sold at all and faded away quickly. The tour for that album was pretty successful, but I'm not sure Mariah has the capacity for a tour at that scale any more. She completed shows for "The Celebration of Mimi", but we all know the performances were almost entirely pre-recorded. It was also the same sequence of songs every night.
In hindsight, I wish they would have promoted "Type Dangerous" more. I prefer it to "Sugar Sweet" and think it could have blown up more if the music video and remixes had come out sooner. I don't know how they plan to recover momentum for the rollout since the album release date is still over a month away.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 18:45)
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Do you all think? (110,500)
by Dave from USA
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Yes, I think it's too late. For the starting rollout, it seemed exciting and promising. Not really sure why she went across the pond so quick with a media blitz and neglected the U.S. markets. I really thought TD would take off in some capacity, but even with a fire song/video, nothing came of it. SS was worse. They could have left that off completely. I really think people are just tired of the "diva" persona, the chest always out, talking about lighting and such, and want her to do what she does (or used to do) best, which is sing. There lies the problem. She just can't sing anymore. She could get away with playing the ditzy diva role with no problem "if" she still had the chops/voice. It's so sad to see her voice deteriorate even further. I really want to be wrong and have the album completely explode like TEOM, but reality just keeps kicking in.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 05:11)
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Do you all think? (110,512)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Of course she still can sing. But I just shared Dave's thoughts because I agree with his comment that most of the people out there (non-fans) are tired of her diva attitude. In 93, 96, 99 and even in 2005 it was okay and funny. But since the music is not like it used to be, the people are indeed tired of "I don't acknowledge time" and so on. I watched a Dolly Parton docu a few days ago, this country lady is also a little diva, but at the same time down to earth. Her interviews were funny but still very honest. Her lyrics are deeper than a lot of people think. "Little Sparrow" is genius and heartfelt. I don't want another Ariana featuring or Taylor Swift, but yes for Dolly Parton. This woman is fantastic.
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Do you all think? (110,507)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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She can sing. She proved that in UK recently.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 13:48)
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I would be a completely different person (110,511)
by Edward from USA
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Be careful, Zachariah is a mouth shutter, he shuts people's mouth. Mariah couldn't keep singing "SS" because Kehlani and Shenseea weren't there to support her or maybe the song is very difficult to sing. There's also a possibility that Mariah couldn't hear herself. This is what I think is happening though: Mariah started defrosting too early this year.
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I would be a completely different person (110,508)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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I still remember whether in 1995 or 1996 during an international interview, Mariah said that if she didn't have the voice she would be a completely different person. So I guess the Mariah now that we have is the different Mariah from what she used to be. Having the voice back then helped her in building her confidence and her issues with insecurities. Now that she lost it, don't deny it guys, she is what she is now. She tried to sing Sugar Sweet acapella recently during one of that UK radio interviews and half way she realised that the voice didn't come out.
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Doja Cat (110,510)
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Agree. I heard of Kehlani by name but can't name a single song. I didn't know the other artist. I don't know why Mariah doesn't call her famous friends for collaborations because we know they pull through when she asks. Look at how many times Ariana came to support her. I was excited about the roll out of the era when TDang teasers started but I don't know what's the plan forward, are we getting a SS music video? Is that dead on arrival? She made 2 collaboration mistakes. Why get Mr Beast to feature in a video when it wasn't part of his contract to promote the song and why have Kehlani on a song where she refused to be featured as a main artist so that it doesn't show up on her Spotify page. She needs to be smarter with who she collaborates with. Heck even Taylor Swift roped in Sabrina Carpenter who's currently super popular eventhough Taylor doesn't need the added advantage.
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Doja Cat (110,502)
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This is why if Mariah wants to stay relevant she needs to one make sure her music is good and second collaborate with current artists like Doja Cat or Bruno Mars. A lot of people don't know who Kehlani or Shenseea is, I never heard of either them until "Sugar sweet" was released. I'm glad she did a song with Anderson .Paak but we really need a collab with a known female artist.
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2013 Mariah (110,509)
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I agree about the 2013 fashion. Her looks were on point. The American Idol era had her taking risks. Her hair and glam was on point. Her recent looks don't do justice to how incredible she looks now. The only recent ensemble I really liked was the gold moment at the BETs performance. She needs a new team of stylist and publicist and especially a social media team. Her social media needs some serious work.
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2013 Mariah (110,501)
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I don't know about ya'll but I miss 2013 Mariah. She looked so young and fresh and her ensembles were on point. She needs to go back with stylist Johnny Wujek because Dior Sovoa is not it, he needs to be fired asap. Johnny actually knows how to dress a woman. I also loved the short milf cut she had when she performed at that charity concert in NY when she was wearing that sling for her arm. Never been a fan of the long hair. Am I being silly or do some of ya'll agree? I'm curious what Mimi L has to say.
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I would be a completely different person (110,508)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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I still remember whether in 1995 or 1996 during an international interview, Mariah said that if she didn't have the voice she would be a completely different person. So I guess the Mariah now that we have is the different Mariah from what she used to be. Having the voice back then helped her in building her confidence and her issues with insecurities. Now that she lost it, don't deny it guys, she is what she is now. She tried to sing Sugar Sweet acapella recently during one of that UK radio interviews and half way she realised that the voice didn't come out.
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Do you all think? (110,507)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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She can sing. She proved that in UK recently.
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Do you all think? (110,505)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I agree with everything you've written. Hundred thumbs up for "tired of the 'diva' persona, the chest always out, talking about lighting and such, and want her to do what she does (or used to do) best, which is sing. There lies the problem. She just can't sing anymore. She could get away with playing the ditzy diva role with no problem 'if' she still had the chops/voice."
I also hope the new album will surprise us. I'm really excited for the songs with the Clark Sisters (they could bring the soul back) and the Paul McCartney cover.
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New single is Here For It All (110,506)
by Bobby A from United States
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I think you are on to something MhieMhie. IWTKWLI was a huge hit in Brazil. Maybe MC is hoping HFIA will become a huge international hit because of the love Brazil has for her.
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New single is Here For It All (110,503)
by MhieMhie from Vietnam
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Based on the lyrics from the snippet last UK preview, it can be the next single as she never previews any single unless it will be released officially. One theory too is the MV in Brazil and I think it will be audience coded MV similar to Infinity.
Mariah miming to the song then video the audience. She chose Brazil as they have undying love for her and are always Here For It All.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 06:34)
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Do you all think? (110,505)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I agree with everything you've written. Hundred thumbs up for "tired of the 'diva' persona, the chest always out, talking about lighting and such, and want her to do what she does (or used to do) best, which is sing. There lies the problem. She just can't sing anymore. She could get away with playing the ditzy diva role with no problem 'if' she still had the chops/voice."
I also hope the new album will surprise us. I'm really excited for the songs with the Clark Sisters (they could bring the soul back) and the Paul McCartney cover.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 11:29)
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Do you all think? (110,500)
by Dave from USA
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Yes, I think it's too late. For the starting rollout, it seemed exciting and promising. Not really sure why she went across the pond so quick with a media blitz and neglected the U.S. markets. I really thought TD would take off in some capacity, but even with a fire song/video, nothing came of it. SS was worse. They could have left that off completely. I really think people are just tired of the "diva" persona, the chest always out, talking about lighting and such, and want her to do what she does (or used to do) best, which is sing. There lies the problem. She just can't sing anymore. She could get away with playing the ditzy diva role with no problem "if" she still had the chops/voice. It's so sad to see her voice deteriorate even further. I really want to be wrong and have the album completely explode like TEOM, but reality just keeps kicking in.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 05:11)
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