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Brazil concert (111,210) by Jamie from UK I wouldn't be surprised. It's sad how some of the stars go this way. (Monday 15 September 2025; 17:11) this is a reply to message 111,208

Brazil concert (111,208) by BFF from United States There were claims being made in 2018/19 by Stella and the others who brought lawsuits that Mariah was recreationally using THC, prescription medications, and alcohol on a regular basis. Based on footage from the reality TV show, we can already confirm the alcohol and THC. Antidepressants and mood stabilizers aren't generally used recreationally, but anti-anxiety (Valium, Xanax) and pain medications (oxycontin, codeine) definitely are. This discussion makes me wonder if the divorce from Nick was a trigger or if perhaps the divorce happened as a result of whatever has been happening behind the scenes. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:52)

Brazil concert (111,209) by BFF from United States Yep, Live Nation and Ticketmaster already have "pre-sale in four days" online for a Christmastime Vegas residency shows starting on 11/28 and ending on 12/13. She hasn't officially announced yet, but they are already up. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:58) this is a reply to message 111,204

Brazil concert (111,204) by Jamie from UK It seems everyone was right. She only defrosts on 11/1 and then she becomes 25 again and Christmas themed (well I thought she 25 was back then). You're right, she never was a dancer but she had stage presence. Come on Mariah, you're only 56 not 156. Clearly something is wrong like we all keep saying. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:08)

Brazil concert (111,208) by BFF from United States There were claims being made in 2018/19 by Stella and the others who brought lawsuits that Mariah was recreationally using THC, prescription medications, and alcohol on a regular basis. Based on footage from the reality TV show, we can already confirm the alcohol and THC. Antidepressants and mood stabilizers aren't generally used recreationally, but anti-anxiety (Valium, Xanax) and pain medications (oxycontin, codeine) definitely are. This discussion makes me wonder if the divorce from Nick was a trigger or if perhaps the divorce happened as a result of whatever has been happening behind the scenes. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:52) this is a reply to message 111,205

Brazil concert (111,205) by Jamie from UK Yes I'm inclined to believe that too, in Ebony reports about the time she thought [Prince], [Whitney] and Michael all dead at the time were coming for dinner. Whilst this might be a fabrication she was most definitely hospitalized in 2016 for 7 weeks. It also reports she refused to take her meds again when she returned home. She's most likely self medicating and this is the result. She's has been more coherent than this post her initial breakdown in 2001. Yeah at times she's been whacky too but it now seems there's no period of her coming across coherent and alert which makes me believe she isn't compliant with her medication like she was earlier on. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:21)

Brazil concert (111,207) by MusicfanJ from Germany I hope it's not because of opiads. My grandma needs to take them but she's ill and 92. Is there no chance that a broken shoulder can heal? Do you think the shoulder still hurts? I think it was too much with the loss of her mother and the Bryan break-up. When Edith Piaf lost her love, the famous boxer Marcel, she was never the same. I know off-topic but I had to think of her because I watched the movie "La vie en rose" which is fantastic as a music bio pic. But back to Mariah, I hope she's okay and feels better soon. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:41) this is a reply to message 111,201

Brazil concert (111,201) by T from USA Mariah has been looking at the monitor ever since 2013 when she went viral for forgetting the lyrics on tour to WBT. Something happened after her fall and broken shoulder. I always suspected they gave her some serious pain killer stuff to keep her going as she is a business that just cannot turn off the lights especially in the middle of promoting an album. Maybe she got hooked on something like opioids? Maybe she still has the addiction and that is why she is being moved from spot to spot by Michael Richardson. He was also moving her around in the same fashion in 2000/2001 when she was carrying around that pink Hello Kitty boom box. We all remember how the end of 2001 went. I wonder how it will end this time. (Monday 15 September 2025; 15:08)

Mariah in Brazil (111,206) by MusicfanJ from Germany To be honest is mostly the best thing to do. At a certain age you should be able to speak the truth. Plus it often takes away negative critics, but if not a lot of people will be harsh and criticise even more. Mariah should be more honest at least. It's not always easy but better for the soul. I hope she gets more open about what's wrong. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:27) this is a reply to message 111,197

Mariah in Brazil (111,197) by Jamie from UK Yeah I agree Bill. I think at this point she would actually get more sympathy from the general public if she was just honest with them. So what if she’s got something, no one cares and would actually warm to her for being open and honest. (Monday 15 September 2025; 10:55)

Brazil concert (111,205) by Jamie from UK Yes I'm inclined to believe that too, in Ebony reports about the time she thought [Prince], [Whitney] and Michael all dead at the time were coming for dinner. Whilst this might be a fabrication she was most definitely hospitalized in 2016 for 7 weeks. It also reports she refused to take her meds again when she returned home. She's most likely self medicating and this is the result. She's has been more coherent than this post her initial breakdown in 2001. Yeah at times she's been whacky too but it now seems there's no period of her coming across coherent and alert which makes me believe she isn't compliant with her medication like she was earlier on. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:21) this is a reply to message 111,203

Brazil concert (111,203) by BFF from United States That is definitely a good point. Maybe she became dependent on pain medication after the injury in 2013. It could be a situation much like Lisa Marie Presley, Prince, etc. where a legitimate injury or pain management situation transitioned into dependence. And that would be on top of the psychiatric medication she has purportedly been taking. It sounds like the Brazil concert went really poorly, but the pattern has been ongoing for 10+ years with things really deteriorating when she started performing again after COVID (around 2022/23). If the issue is dependence on prescription medication, I don't think we will hear about it unless she has an incident like those involving Prince, Whitney Houston, and Michael Jackson. We were probably pretty close to hearing something when she was hospitalized in 2016, but she PRed that by "revealing" the bipolar diagnosis and mental health issues diagnosed in 2001 which we already knew about. As much as Stella cheapened her image in that period, I do believe some of the claims that Stella and others made in those now-dismissed lawsuits from that period. (Monday 15 September 2025; 15:54)

Brazil concert (111,204) by Jamie from UK It seems everyone was right. She only defrosts on 11/1 and then she becomes 25 again and Christmas themed (well I thought she 25 was back then). You're right, she never was a dancer but she had stage presence. Come on Mariah, you're only 56 not 156. Clearly something is wrong like we all keep saying. (Monday 15 September 2025; 16:08) this is a reply to message 111,201

Brazil concert (111,201) by T from USA Mariah has been looking at the monitor ever since 2013 when she went viral for forgetting the lyrics on tour to WBT. Something happened after her fall and broken shoulder. I always suspected they gave her some serious pain killer stuff to keep her going as she is a business that just cannot turn off the lights especially in the middle of promoting an album. Maybe she got hooked on something like opioids? Maybe she still has the addiction and that is why she is being moved from spot to spot by Michael Richardson. He was also moving her around in the same fashion in 2000/2001 when she was carrying around that pink Hello Kitty boom box. We all remember how the end of 2001 went. I wonder how it will end this time. (Monday 15 September 2025; 15:08)

Brazil concert (111,203) by BFF from United States That is definitely a good point. Maybe she became dependent on pain medication after the injury in 2013. It could be a situation much like Lisa Marie Presley, Prince, etc. where a legitimate injury or pain management situation transitioned into dependence. And that would be on top of the psychiatric medication she has purportedly been taking. It sounds like the Brazil concert went really poorly, but the pattern has been ongoing for 10+ years with things really deteriorating when she started performing again after COVID (around 2022/23). If the issue is dependence on prescription medication, I don't think we will hear about it unless she has an incident like those involving Prince, Whitney Houston, and Michael Jackson. We were probably pretty close to hearing something when she was hospitalized in 2016, but she PRed that by "revealing" the bipolar diagnosis and mental health issues diagnosed in 2001 which we already knew about. As much as Stella cheapened her image in that period, I do believe some of the claims that Stella and others made in those now-dismissed lawsuits from that period. (Monday 15 September 2025; 15:54) this is a reply to message 111,201

Brazil concert (111,201) by T from USA Mariah has been looking at the monitor ever since 2013 when she went viral for forgetting the lyrics on tour to WBT. Something happened after her fall and broken shoulder. I always suspected they gave her some serious pain killer stuff to keep her going as she is a business that just cannot turn off the lights especially in the middle of promoting an album. Maybe she got hooked on something like opioids? Maybe she still has the addiction and that is why she is being moved from spot to spot by Michael Richardson. He was also moving her around in the same fashion in 2000/2001 when she was carrying around that pink Hello Kitty boom box. We all remember how the end of 2001 went. I wonder how it will end this time. (Monday 15 September 2025; 15:08)

Mariah in Brazil (111,202) by Carlos from Brazil It was indeed reaaaally bad. One year ago she performed for one of the biggest crowds ever in her career. The Brazilian solo show in 2024 was awesome but in retrospect I guess the audience (and us lambs) were missing her a lot but the show was pretty much her standing and miming the "new" pre recorded vocals. This time on The Town Festival I guess we were more comfortable to really analyse her show and be more critical because she was here a year ago if you know what I mean and then everyone noticed how distant, how stiff, how zoned out she is. The IWTKWLI song in the end is not a surprise anymore and if you notice it's literally the same track played on Rock in Rio when there is a cue for her to put the mic to the audience. Just when I tough she was going to slow down here comes news of more Christmas shows. Next Wednesday there will be a special performance in Brasil on the Amazon River and I don't think she will do better. It would be such a good opportunity for her to shine and sell her artistry. (Monday 15 September 2025; 15:38) this is a reply to message 111,190

Mariah in Brazil (111,190) by Zachariah from Croatia Ugh, sorry to hear that. Was it really that bad? So strange that she has these fluctuations while performing. I know her motto in this era is to do whatever she wants and "do" her, but I think this in not the right way. (Monday 15 September 2025; 09:29)

Brazil concert (111,201) by T from USA Mariah has been looking at the monitor ever since 2013 when she went viral for forgetting the lyrics on tour to WBT. Something happened after her fall and broken shoulder. I always suspected they gave her some serious pain killer stuff to keep her going as she is a business that just cannot turn off the lights especially in the middle of promoting an album. Maybe she got hooked on something like opioids? Maybe she still has the addiction and that is why she is being moved from spot to spot by Michael Richardson. He was also moving her around in the same fashion in 2000/2001 when she was carrying around that pink Hello Kitty boom box. We all remember how the end of 2001 went. I wonder how it will end this time. (Monday 15 September 2025; 15:08)

Brazil show (111,200) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I can see why people would be disappointed. She barely moved. I don't get it, she was doing much better in the other show but is back to being stiff. I know a lot of people are like Mariah is not a dancer and for sure no one expects her to dance, but she always had a great stage presence back in the day. She'd move around, move her hands that would emote the song and just be more "present". Nowadays she seems like she is in a glass cage not moving, not interacting and just frozen constantly looking at the monitor. It's almost like she can't see she's in an audience, and only is looking at her band and backup dancers. She's booking these huge shows which can really help her sales but she just seems so disinterested and bored. I wish someone would speak to her or show her the clips so she can see what she's doing. (Monday 15 September 2025; 13:40)

Mariah's priorities (111,199) by Randy from USA No surprise in Brazil. I'm always surprised that people are so upset though. It's become a joke on Instagram and TikTok. "Go ahead Mimi give us nothing and everything at the same time." I think Mariah's priorities are ranked in this order. #4 Her vocals. #3 "The music" or being a songwriter in the studio. #2 The lighting. #1 Looking great: "the hair, the makeup, the ensemble". Whenever she walks out on stage, myself and everyone in the general public says the same thing, " wow she looks great." But we never leave the performance with "she sounded great". And as for HFIA, Stacey and Bill, I agree with the "sh*t" being out of place. And she mentions God in the next line. Listen I say bad words but they fit the moment. GTFO is my anthem. But on HFIA, "sh*t" didn't belong with the mood of the verse. I really like the song though, outside of that. And if you've followed my career as a columnist on this board, y'all know I don't like anything. P.S I kinda thought we were getting "Mi" this week as she alluded to it at the end of her "finish the lyric video". Oh well. (Monday 15 September 2025; 13:32)

New Here For It All video (111,198) by Lambi from USA Wait, I keep forgetting Mariah went through an actual heavy break up. 7 years. The lyrics do fit Tanaka as well. Maybe he was the initial subject and then she kept editing and added elements of her mom's death? I'm so invested now. I like the song so far. It being about Tanaka would make perfect sense though. Let's hear the rest. (Monday 15 September 2025; 11:41) this is a reply to message 111,188

New Here For It All video (111,188) by Shezz from Pk I really liked the clip of HFIA. I heard say it in one of the interviews that she wrote it a couple of years ago and knew she wanted to name the album after it ever since. At first after the Selfridges snippet I thought maybe she wrote it for her kids but it sounds like it must have been for Bryan. .Paak is too recent for a song that's two years old. Speaking of, I know MC is busy with promo and touring but he's nowhere to be seen. Maybe he was just helping her get the album together and they aren't romantically involved? (Monday 15 September 2025; 03:58)

Mariah in Brazil (111,197) by Jamie from UK Yeah I agree Bill. I think at this point she would actually get more sympathy from the general public if she was just honest with them. So what if she’s got something, no one cares and would actually warm to her for being open and honest. (Monday 15 September 2025; 10:55) this is a reply to message 111,195

Mariah in Brazil (111,195) by Bill from the UK Shame to read this, but this has been Mariah's standard for a long time (except the concert in the UK, not sure what happened there or why she suddenly was "Mariah" again). The bad press and reviews will all come to a stop if she simply lets everybody know what the problem is. Medication? Fine. A bad back? Fine. An auto-immune disease? Fine. Everyone loves her and no one would think of her any differently, in fact, people like me would shut up and let her get on with it, as right now she just comes across as doing the bare minimum and in it for the money (which may also be the case). But, I know Mariah, and I know she has been dealing with something that started showing as early as the E=MC2 days, but has got progressively worse and worse, to the point where it is up there in neon flashing lights and still we sit here blaming it on high heels and nerves and nodules. (Monday 15 September 2025; 10:12)

Here for it all (111,196) by Bill from the UK Eh. A bit disappointed this much hyped track contains profanity. It's so low rent and, as you say, no need for it. That's put a bit of a dampener on it for me sadly. I hope she isn't telling our good Lord above to "GTFO" on Jesus I Do. (Monday 15 September 2025; 10:16) this is a reply to message 111,186

Here for it all (111,186) by Stacey from USA Same. I don't understand the need to swear. Never have. I listened to the clip once, lol. I am doing my best not to listen to any clips until the album drops. I have never been successful. (Monday 15 September 2025; 03:46)

Mariah in Brazil (111,195) by Bill from the UK Shame to read this, but this has been Mariah's standard for a long time (except the concert in the UK, not sure what happened there or why she suddenly was "Mariah" again). The bad press and reviews will all come to a stop if she simply lets everybody know what the problem is. Medication? Fine. A bad back? Fine. An auto-immune disease? Fine. Everyone loves her and no one would think of her any differently, in fact, people like me would shut up and let her get on with it, as right now she just comes across as doing the bare minimum and in it for the money (which may also be the case). But, I know Mariah, and I know she has been dealing with something that started showing as early as the E=MC2 days, but has got progressively worse and worse, to the point where it is up there in neon flashing lights and still we sit here blaming it on high heels and nerves and nodules. (Monday 15 September 2025; 10:12) this is a reply to message 111,184

Mariah in Brazil (111,184) by Pedro from Brazil Yes, the look was great, but the concert was terrible. Nobody enjoyed it, and people thought it was awful how she didn't interact with the audience, kept staring at the monitors, and left the stage multiple times for long outfit changes. She barely sang, didn't even try to move around the stage, and now she's been getting a lot of backlash from both the media and fans, many of whom left halfway through the show. I just can't understand this lack of energy in her concerts lately. It feels like she doesn't even want to be there. I don't remember any Mariah concert ever being this bad before. Everyone in Brazil was disappointed. (Monday 15 September 2025; 00:10)

I'll be listening before hearing other people's opinions (111,194) by Jamie from UK That looks much better. Does anyone have a copy of You Don't Know What To Do without the rap? I can't find mine. (Monday 15 September 2025; 10:05) this is a reply to message 111,192

I'll be listening before hearing other people's opinions (111,192) by Bill from the UK Here's my version of MIAM that I playlisted, rather than the actual album: 1. Make It Look Good 2. Beautiful 3. You Don't Know What to Do 4. You're Mine (Eternal) 5. Cry. 6. Faded 7. Dedicated 8. Almost Home 9. Mesmerised* 10. Triumphant (Get 'Em) 11. The Art of Letting Go *I know it's not strictly from the era, but I think it fits. I trimmed all the filler and weak tracks out, especially One More Try and Heavenly, as they are so Frankensteined they don't even sound like her. (Monday 15 September 2025; 09:59)

Here for it all (111,193) by Jamie from UK Yeah I only listened once for that reason. It's the only song listed with an explicit rating next to it thankfully. (Monday 15 September 2025; 10:01) this is a reply to message 111,186

Here for it all (111,186) by Stacey from USA Same. I don't understand the need to swear. Never have. I listened to the clip once, lol. I am doing my best not to listen to any clips until the album drops. I have never been successful. (Monday 15 September 2025; 03:46)

I'll be listening before hearing other people's opinions (111,192) by Bill from the UK Here's my version of MIAM that I playlisted, rather than the actual album: 1. Make It Look Good 2. Beautiful 3. You Don't Know What to Do 4. You're Mine (Eternal) 5. Cry. 6. Faded 7. Dedicated 8. Almost Home 9. Mesmerised* 10. Triumphant (Get 'Em) 11. The Art of Letting Go *I know it's not strictly from the era, but I think it fits. I trimmed all the filler and weak tracks out, especially One More Try and Heavenly, as they are so Frankensteined they don't even sound like her. (Monday 15 September 2025; 09:59) this is a reply to message 111,181

I'll be listening before hearing other people's opinions (111,181) by Edward from USA Definitely a missed opportunity. In my humble opinion, "Triumphant" was stronger than a lot of tracks on MIAM and deserved a spot on the album, yet it wasn't even included as a bonus track. When it first dropped, people complained that Mariah sounded like a guest on her own song, but then she came back with those incredible remixes that proved her voice was still very much there. I still jam to them today. I'm sure there are more gems from that era sitting in the vault, and when they finally see the light of day, we'll all be in for a surprise. (Sunday 14 September 2025; 21:01)

I'll be listening before hearing other people's opinions (111,191) by Jamie from UK I love Triumphant, it’s a great song. She looks amazing in the video. And that vintage throwback remix is fantastic (Monday 15 September 2025; 09:56) this is a reply to message 111,181

I'll be listening before hearing other people's opinions (111,181) by Edward from USA Definitely a missed opportunity. In my humble opinion, "Triumphant" was stronger than a lot of tracks on MIAM and deserved a spot on the album, yet it wasn't even included as a bonus track. When it first dropped, people complained that Mariah sounded like a guest on her own song, but then she came back with those incredible remixes that proved her voice was still very much there. I still jam to them today. I'm sure there are more gems from that era sitting in the vault, and when they finally see the light of day, we'll all be in for a surprise. (Sunday 14 September 2025; 21:01)

Mariah in Brazil (111,190) by Zachariah from Croatia Ugh, sorry to hear that. Was it really that bad? So strange that she has these fluctuations while performing. I know her motto in this era is to do whatever she wants and "do" her, but I think this in not the right way. (Monday 15 September 2025; 09:29) this is a reply to message 111,184

Mariah in Brazil (111,184) by Pedro from Brazil Yes, the look was great, but the concert was terrible. Nobody enjoyed it, and people thought it was awful how she didn't interact with the audience, kept staring at the monitors, and left the stage multiple times for long outfit changes. She barely sang, didn't even try to move around the stage, and now she's been getting a lot of backlash from both the media and fans, many of whom left halfway through the show. I just can't understand this lack of energy in her concerts lately. It feels like she doesn't even want to be there. I don't remember any Mariah concert ever being this bad before. Everyone in Brazil was disappointed. (Monday 15 September 2025; 00:10)

Mariah in Brazil (111,189) by Dave from USA If that's true (and reading a separate article before coming here stating similar things) it may be time for Mariah to step out of the limelight. Even if it meant pushing that album back. This is starting to look really bad. What is up with all these strange appearances and low energy/effort to perform? Now, it's starting to become infuriating because she's doing a disservice to her fans and her legacy. She really needs to take care of herself because something is just not right with her. This is way different than 2001. She looks absolutely vacant and absent vitually everywhere these past two months. This seems like there is much more issues with her mental health to the point where she is coming off as a pretty zombie. It's not worth the damage in the long run. I hope there is at least one person there looking after her. (Monday 15 September 2025; 04:50) this is a reply to message 111,184

Mariah in Brazil (111,184) by Pedro from Brazil Yes, the look was great, but the concert was terrible. Nobody enjoyed it, and people thought it was awful how she didn't interact with the audience, kept staring at the monitors, and left the stage multiple times for long outfit changes. She barely sang, didn't even try to move around the stage, and now she's been getting a lot of backlash from both the media and fans, many of whom left halfway through the show. I just can't understand this lack of energy in her concerts lately. It feels like she doesn't even want to be there. I don't remember any Mariah concert ever being this bad before. Everyone in Brazil was disappointed. (Monday 15 September 2025; 00:10)

New Here For It All video (111,188) by Shezz from Pk I really liked the clip of HFIA. I heard say it in one of the interviews that she wrote it a couple of years ago and knew she wanted to name the album after it ever since. At first after the Selfridges snippet I thought maybe she wrote it for her kids but it sounds like it must have been for Bryan. .Paak is too recent for a song that's two years old. Speaking of, I know MC is busy with promo and touring but he's nowhere to be seen. Maybe he was just helping her get the album together and they aren't romantically involved? (Monday 15 September 2025; 03:58) this is a reply to message 111,179

New Here For It All video (111,179) by Bobby A from United States MC's post on X of her singing the verses of Here For It All live with Daniel Moore showcases her impeccable songwriting skils. The lyrics are really deep and personal. I wonder who HFIA is about. Patricia? Anderson? (Sunday 14 September 2025; 19:42)

New Here For It All video (111,187) by Lambi from USA "I lay awake and feel you breathe and thank the Lord I lived to see the physical embodiment of love" sounds like the last moments with Pat. She realizes her mother really did the best with what she got. She may have been neglectful at times, but that's what happens when there is only one working parent. "But when you leave you take a little bit of every fiber that's embedded in me. But if you need, I'll keep my shit together and internalize the depths of the fears." My thoughts then shifted to Dem Babies growing up and Mariah having a bit of a hard time letting go. "And baby I'm here for it all. Red carpets in Cannes and applause, Bugattis whatever they're called. Baby, I'm here for it all. Our virtuous sleepover nights that kept me from losing my mind through things I don't care to recall. Still, baby, I'm here for it all." What comes to mind is her watching Mean Girls with Roe in matching all pink pajamas. The first stanzas could easily apply to her kids as well. It sounds like deep retrospection. Mariah lost her mom, so this feels like an ode to her babies. She knows what that kind of loss feels like, and now she wants to let them know what they mean to her, and that she'll try to be there as much as possible. Will someone with great ears transcribe the very first snippet? Maybe we can get a fuller picture. It seems like a family-centered song, I like it. The first few lines of the melody are very I Believe I Can Fly. I hear a new song that everyone will be covering soon. Finally. (Monday 15 September 2025; 03:53) this is a reply to message 111,179

New Here For It All video (111,179) by Bobby A from United States MC's post on X of her singing the verses of Here For It All live with Daniel Moore showcases her impeccable songwriting skils. The lyrics are really deep and personal. I wonder who HFIA is about. Patricia? Anderson? (Sunday 14 September 2025; 19:42)

Here for it all (111,186) by Stacey from USA Same. I don't understand the need to swear. Never have. I listened to the clip once, lol. I am doing my best not to listen to any clips until the album drops. I have never been successful. (Monday 15 September 2025; 03:46) this is a reply to message 111,178

Here for it all (111,178) by Jamie from UK Loving the new clip of [Here for it all]. Sounds like a great song. Not sure why she had to swear in it but other than that it sounds like a quality song with current vocals. (Sunday 14 September 2025; 19:08)

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