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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,344) by BFF from United States
Robert Anthony, I hope you know that my post was not directed against you but all of the people who have been so cruel to Mariah throughout the years. It really feels personal when people are so mean and disrespectful to her. I felt it when people made fun of made for loving her in childhood, adolescence and adulthood. You just wonder when people will embrace her for the truly great, international, boundary-breaking artist that she is.
(Friday 14 March 2025; 00:04)
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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,343) by Bobby A from United States
Thank you, Randy. What is it about a pear, though? I come here to take my mind off my stressful job this year. I am just mentally drained teaching in this affluent school. It is not the students, but the so called professional adults and demanding parents that I work with. Sometimes my posts are result of how hard my day was and how much I can't wait until May 23rd to free myself from this school. I understand how MC felt when Virgin wouldn't let her alone during the promotion of Glitter. Anyway, I hope MC is showered with love and praise on March 17th when she receives her iHeart Radio recognition.
(Thursday 13 March 2025; 08:40)
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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,342) by Randy from USA
Robert grow a pair. You are the balance this board needs. Do not pay attention to whoever that said whatever. I haven't paid attention to her since she used to be popular. I used to say all the time we need you, Terna, jacker20 to balance the equation. My job, and when Andrew was here's job was to unbalance it. Anyway, to bring us to all back on point, I don't mind MC being last out of Mary, Madonna, Janet and Whitney. I mind the constant rejection, if it happens again. I could care less she married the Svengali that discovered her, that her live performances are as inconsistent as JLo's love life or that she'd rather appear a ditz obsessed with lighting than a living legend. MC is the best singer songwriter combination of all time. She has the record sales, lyrics, melodies and fans to prove it. This industry is biased against her and it shows. PS this is an industry that has given Britney Spears and Nicki Minaj MTVs Video Vanguard award before Paula Abdul, who hasn't received it. Think about that.
(Thursday 13 March 2025; 01:14)
Is Mariah high-key the mother of 10 bonus kids and a passive (108,341) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
And that's excluding her alleged ex-husband. I only say "alleged" because for all intents and purposes she chooses to enable him and does absolutely nothing to put her foot down. Thirsty Cannon is out here telling everybody that he's super dad and that he's the head of one big happy family because Mariah made him into the bastard father Abraham that he is today and she's also the live if his life and he'd marry her again (if there was no prenup). Is he wrong? Mariah is in a polyamories' relationship with 6 baby mamas.

One of them is now going on record (several of the others already admitted as much on socials), dropping the pretense of why she jumped at the opportunity to have her child be biologically connected to Mariah's twins.

As you can hear and see, she's not even really bothered that the sperm donor isn't around much (because of all the podcasts invites he gets) or is with the other 50-11 concubines - she's concerned that her son doesn't get to spend the holidays and one on one time with Roc and Roe who are incidentally always with Mariah. She generously offers to not be invited except at drop off or pick up. We all know I don't see it for thirsty and never will, but we are well past the point where Mariah isn't in on this dysfunction. MC is an enabler of this situational dysfunction. I love her to pieces but this is simply the objective truth. This kind of twisted game doesn't sustain itself without legal adults disregarding every other sane or healthy alternative. It's pure insanity. I feel only for the children who are treated as nothing but pawns by these crazy gamers.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 17:46)
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,340) by BFF from United States
No worries, Robert Anthony. I just think that people underestimate the level of disrespect/venom that people have directed at Mariah over the years. It's been memory holed by a lot of people, and many think that a few retrospective positive reviews of "Daydream" or "Butterfly" somehow makes up for how poorly she was treated at times.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 17:16)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,339) by Bobby A from United States
My post was not meant to disrepect MC. I was thinking outside of the box again. I will stop thinking so much. There will be positivity from now on.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 14:05)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,338) by BFF from United States
Mariah has collaborated with a diverse range of artists as well. She's recorded songs and sang live with Luther Vandross, Whitney Houston, Luciano Pavarotti, Boyz II Men, Aretha Franklin, Carole King, Babyface, ODB, Rick James, Eric Benet, Jay-Z, Willie Nelson, and the list goes on. I'm telling you, people disrespect Mariah out of spite for all of the reasons Randy and I elaborated upon in our posts.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 11:39)
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"Bianca" (108,337) by Zachariah from Croatia
I wish she would turn into Bianca, in terms, not to be polite to people who don't deserve that and telling what is exactly on her mind to people who are trying to ignore her or ridicule her for her behavior. She is always polite and politically correct, but I think she is old enough to just say "phack off".
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 10:16)
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,336) by Bobby A from United States
I have been trying to think of one reason why MJB was inducted last year. MJB has collaborated with a diverse group of artists like U2, Elton John, Sting, Ray Charles, and George Michael. MC's career has been lacking in that area by no fault of her own. Timing and personal reasons just got in MC's way to collaborate with more diverse artists.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 03:37)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,335) by Lee from USA
Are you kidding me? If it isn't her image, then it is her performances. She must be doing right if she is singing at King Charles' residence. You will never see MJB singing there or in China Mary was literally groveling to Taylor Swift.
(Tuesday 11 March 2025; 19:01)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,334) by BFF from United States
I agree, Randy. And this whole thing started with the "white girl trying to sing black" BS that was used to undermine her. None of the people you mentioned wrote every song on their first album and continued to write and produce on subsequent albums. The industry has never given her the respect she deserves because they never bothered to look beneath the surface level journalistic takes written about her in the 90s and beyond. That's why the Craig Seymour interview from 1999 is so important and one of her best interviews. She's able to elaborate in detail about how critics created this overly simplistic racialist narrative about her (and honestly re-traumatize her in the process), claiming that she never did R&B/club-inspired records before the "Fantasy" remix or the "Butterfly" album and claiming that she was just a middle of the road adult contemporary artist. The reality is that "Emotions" was heavily influenced by R&B, soul, club, and gospel music. And even the stuff on the debut and "Music Box" was. I mean, did these people even listen to the albums?
(Tuesday 11 March 2025; 14:22)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,333) by Bobby A from United States
MC commanding the stage is something that Tommy could have done to help [nurture] in MC. He could have easily hired a great performer like Quincy Jones to help MC with her stage presence. MC would have listened, but he wanted to keep her underneath a glass jar and not become too big of a performer. That is one thing that he could have done better for MC's career. Anyway, I hope she wins the nomination this time. MC needs a huge interview or philanthropic event right now to make the media talk about her to increase votes.
(Tuesday 11 March 2025; 11:56)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,332) by Brandon from USA
Randy, I 100 percent agree with [you]. However, Mary, Janet, Whitney and Madonna (Celine as well) all take their artistry seriously, which includes being respected performers/entertainers. They are all confident in their craft, put the work in and it shows in their performances. They present themselves as confident artists to be taken seriously in their interviews. They command respect on the stage whether you like their music or not. Mariah has never mastered the art of performing and always presents herself as insecure. While MC has the record sales, she does not have the same respect on the stage which is why it has taken so long for her to be added to the RRHF. MJB is not a great singer and is often off key, but she gives her all whenever she performs. MC has been on autopilot for many years now unfortunately.
(Tuesday 11 March 2025; 05:10)
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Mayhem or mess (108,331) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
I really enjoy Mayhem. I wouldn't say Artpop (Gaga's official 3rd album) is one of her best albums. Unless you were counting The Fame Monster as a different album than The Fame? I think Joanne is her best album. Mayhem is better than Chromatic imo (not withstanding Rain on Me which is one of her best songs ever). I also love Cheek to Cheek with Tony. Gaga does music genre bending like none other (sorry Madonna and recently Beyonce). If Mariah had run full tilt with the music she made with Willie Nelson, done a full album when Tennessee was released, she could have Cowboy Carter'd 17 years ago.
(Monday 10 March 2025; 21:04)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,330) by Randy from USA
Y'all know I've been critical of MC due to lip syncing and such but this Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing is getting me down. All of her peers, and I mean all of them, are in there. Mary, Whitney, Madonna and Janet. This is exactly in line with a lot of us have been saying for years. The industry doesn't respect her or her accomplishments. Look at her tributes. Look at her award count. Like this kinda matters. But ok. I'm beating another dead horse as y'all point out with me constantly.
(Monday 10 March 2025; 19:10)
Vinyl sales are down (108,329) by Bobby A from United States
I just feel like MC's vinyl sales are down in 2025 compared to other legends like Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Beyonce, Mary J. Blige and Usher. The latter three have major labels who are sending their catalogues into vinyl production at the same rate MC had after the The Rarities was released. Now in 2025, there has not been any new vinyl release information in the first quarter of the new year. Is that odd or just too soon in 2025?
(Saturday 8 March 2025; 22:28)
Mayhem or mess (108,328) by Bobby A from United States
If Mayhem is the best Lady Gaga has to offer this point in her career, then her albums #1-3 will always be her best albums. I wanted to ask the Waterloo Records clerk to put on something else for my in store listening experience.
(Saturday 8 March 2025; 18:13)
Precious (108,327) by BFF from United States
I'm not sure I agree with Mariah's thoughts on Terrence Howard for the role of Dice. I think Max Beesley worked well because of his acting talent and because he was also a musician. I do not agree that Beesley was chosen over Howard due to racism.

I'm also not a fan of Terrence Howard as a person because of his history of misogyny and abuse of women. One of the incidents happened around the time he was cast in "Glitter". There are better African-American male actors who actually treat women with respect and decency.
(Saturday 8 March 2025; 14:56)
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Precious (108,326) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
While we are in the topic of Mariah's movies, I remember Mariah wrote in her book that she wanted Terrence Howard to play the male lead for Glitter (at that time it was called All That Glitters). If only those powers that be listened to her, then maybe the fate of the movie would turn out different and they would just release the Loverboy (Firecracker version) because the chorus is so much fun, catchy and boppy. Plus if the movie did well and the first single did well too, then there would be no breakdown episode of Mariah and subsequently there would be no mockery of Mariah in all the medias at that time.
(Saturday 8 March 2025; 03:21)
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Precious (108,325) by MusicfanJ from Germany
"Double O Soul" sounded so good. It's annoying that Chris Tucker left the project. At least we have the [Honey] video, Mariah is a hidden [Bond] girl for sure. And I always wanted a [Bond] song by Mariah.
(Friday 7 March 2025; 19:57)
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Precious (108,324) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Hmm, I don't think so. Evita was really a perfect role for Madonna. I was surprised back then by the acting. I love bio-pics in general. I wonder what could be a perfect role for MC? A lot of you will laugh but somehow I can imagine Mariah to be in a fantasy movie.
(Friday 7 March 2025; 19:47)
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Precious (108,323) by Bobby A from United States
Yes, she can still make it happened. Does she really want it though? I have the strangest feeling today MC is taking her time releasing new music because her creative spirit has diminished. When I looked back at the E=MC2 era and she lost all of that weight, MC had a such a go get them mindset. She lost that mindset 7 years ago.
(Friday 7 March 2025; 18:55)
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Precious (108,322) by BFF from United States
Well, I think Mariah was actively discouraged by Tommy to take roles that she was offered in the 1990s. She has alluded to the fact that there were film roles offered to her that made other people movie stars. I also think a lot of her efforts to break into movies during the 1997-2001 period were derailed and sabotaged. If you recall, she cut her Butterfly Tour short because she wanted to do a movie called "Double O Soul" with Chris Tucker but then Tucker backed out, leaving Mariah with nothing to show for her investment in that project. She was also attached to a project called "The Sweet Science", which seemed very interesting but never came to fruition (most likely due to the response to "Glitter"). "Wisegirls" never went anywhere outside of the Sundance circuit, even though it was an interesting project.

The role she took in "Tennessee" was solid and her role in "Precious" was small but interesting. I think she could get away with another attempt at making movies. Whitney did "Sparkle" pretty late in her career. Diana Ross did a few made for TV films in the 90s when she was in her 50s. It's still possible for Mariah to do something different if she wants to.
(Friday 7 March 2025; 15:11)
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Branding/brand deals (108,321) by jaker20 from US
A little late on this, but I always wondered why Mariah didn't have a skin care line. She has the best skin ever. It's flawless actually. She should have launched it around 2005 immediately after TEOM when her music was everywhere, and it would have been the biggest skin care line ever. At that time, her videos were everywhere, and would have served as a great commercial for her products.
(Friday 7 March 2025; 06:51)
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Precious (108,320) by TJ from Norway
I do agree with you how the critics were always trying to get her in the 90s. One of the most respected critics in Norway was writing so much horrible things about her after the success of Music Box, that most media rejected her. It was almost hard to admit that I was a fan when I discussed music with people. I even got my cds wrapped as gifts when I bought them. I was afraid of the looks from the guys behind the counter.

On the other hand I really, really don't like Glitter, the movie. The album is one of her best releases since the beginning.
(Friday 7 March 2025; 06:35)
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